I find the whole NAWALT/AWALT nonsense pointless because there are enough of them that are like that to make it a risk that isn't worth taking either way. But frankly I've seen far more AWALT in MGTOW spaces where they deride the idea of unicorns existing. They also don't give a shit about being "too mean to da wimminz". They're checking out of society to the greatest extent possible. Why would they give a shit how women or society at large feel?
AWALT is a mantra that's useful not because its true, but because its true enough that you need to remind yourself to not take the risk. A lot of guys get blinded by a green flag or two, a few smokey mirrors and then forget everything they've learned. Its something guys who are just starting out need, because it helps break you of your simpish ways.
And perhaps things have changed in the years since I broke off from all those circles. But in my time it was filled with "we just want to be alone, we don't hate anyone!" Women weren't the problem, it was society who made them that way. Or the feminists. I was only adjacent to them because of my anti-feminist crusade, and most were stuck on the "its third wave that's bad, old feminism wasn't a bad thing they should get to vote." Plenty of discussion on how "well my mom, or my sister, or my teacher who helped me aren't like that" and personal bias blindness.
They're checking out of society to the greatest extent possible.
Except they don't. They larp that they are, just like a bunch of right wing guys larp about being outdoorsman, or vikings, or super racist/misogynist. A lot of smoke is blown, a lot of talking is done, but little very few actually go beyond superficial elements.
Which isn't much better than TRP, or MRAs, NoFappers, or any other manosphere groups. But at least people recognize how retarded many of those guys are too.
I find the whole NAWALT/AWALT nonsense pointless because there are enough of them that are like that to make it a risk that isn't worth taking either way. But frankly I've seen far more AWALT in MGTOW spaces where they deride the idea of unicorns existing. They also don't give a shit about being "too mean to da wimminz". They're checking out of society to the greatest extent possible. Why would they give a shit how women or society at large feel?
AWALT is a mantra that's useful not because its true, but because its true enough that you need to remind yourself to not take the risk. A lot of guys get blinded by a green flag or two, a few smokey mirrors and then forget everything they've learned. Its something guys who are just starting out need, because it helps break you of your simpish ways.
And perhaps things have changed in the years since I broke off from all those circles. But in my time it was filled with "we just want to be alone, we don't hate anyone!" Women weren't the problem, it was society who made them that way. Or the feminists. I was only adjacent to them because of my anti-feminist crusade, and most were stuck on the "its third wave that's bad, old feminism wasn't a bad thing they should get to vote." Plenty of discussion on how "well my mom, or my sister, or my teacher who helped me aren't like that" and personal bias blindness.
Except they don't. They larp that they are, just like a bunch of right wing guys larp about being outdoorsman, or vikings, or super racist/misogynist. A lot of smoke is blown, a lot of talking is done, but little very few actually go beyond superficial elements.
Which isn't much better than TRP, or MRAs, NoFappers, or any other manosphere groups. But at least people recognize how retarded many of those guys are too.