Too often it's just unattractive looking guys geting bad body image problems that are preyed upon. They get sold on some fairytale magic that will make them a beautiful princess.
This is not the case. Transitioning does not make you less ugly. What it does is make whatever positive masculine traits you do have into something deeply unsettling.
Any counter example of an attractive TIM was already quite feminine and attractive before transitioning. This is very rare. If there is any doubt as to wether one would be pretty after transitioning, they are ten times more apparent if one was to go through with it.
All people have an innate ability to identify an unhealthy person. Historically it helped us avoid disease. Nowadays it's why the uncanny Valley exists, and why trans people who don't pass look so goddam creepy.
In any case good for him. I don't know what kind of damage he's incurred, but here's hoping he's managing to pull himself back together.
Many years ago during a conversation with one of these "progressive" types I made some mention of my being "a fat piece of shit". She replied with something like "that's not a healthy way of thinking about yourself; you should be happy with your body as-is".
This person was also fat, and when she said that it occurred to me that with her attitude she'd always be fat, but with my attitude there was at least a chance I'd try to not be. So whose attitude was actually the "healthy" one?
It all goes back to "change what you can, accept what you cannot". It's hard to fix fat, but you can do it. You both know it's a hard fight, so she has clearly conceded defeat (while you may not have won the fight, at least you're still swinging). Now look what this guy in OP's picture did, trying to fix looking homely rather than managing to come to terms with hid own body, learn to accept and love it as it is, and then work what attractive traits he does have. That top pic was when he wasn't accepting his own positive traits, and dear God was it a nightmare. But in the bottom pic, he at least looked pretty average, and so much more in control of his own opinions on who and what kind if person he is. Definite win for him and his self esteem.
It's that and a recognition that the "ideal self" must be grounded in reality. In my case part of the "ideal me" involves being a healthy weight, because humans do in fact have an optimal weight that I was well in excess of. In this guy's case it has to involve being a guy, because he is in fact a guy.
This guy to his credit correctly observed that "ideal him" didn't include whatever severe mental health issues he had. But since his "ideal self" wasn't grounded in reality (thinking he was a woman instead of a man) it didn't actually fix his mental health problem.
Then to top it all off, when he looked like a sideshow freak he doubtless had people telling him "you should be happy with who you are", which was doing him no favors. If he at least tried to make himself look like an attractive woman one could attempt the argument that his sense of "ideal self" had a rudimentary grounding in reality (in that he understands what an attractive woman looks like and that he was not attractive). But that's not the case.
If that "ideal self" isn't grounded in reality then you get what this dude was doing to himself. Perhaps he is no closer to his sense of "ideal self" than he was when he pretended to be a woman, but that sense of self is now grounded in reality which is a net positive for him.
If you make your sense of "ideal self" equal to "actual self" at all times then you never have incentive to improve yourself. One is free to have that sense of "ideal self", but having it is not and should not be considered a virtue. Unfortunately we have a bunch of people running around saying it is, and it will be our end.
Too often it's just unattractive looking guys geting bad body image problems that are preyed upon. They get sold on some fairytale magic that will make them a beautiful princess.
This is not the case. Transitioning does not make you less ugly. What it does is make whatever positive masculine traits you do have into something deeply unsettling.
Any counter example of an attractive TIM was already quite feminine and attractive before transitioning. This is very rare. If there is any doubt as to wether one would be pretty after transitioning, they are ten times more apparent if one was to go through with it.
All people have an innate ability to identify an unhealthy person. Historically it helped us avoid disease. Nowadays it's why the uncanny Valley exists, and why trans people who don't pass look so goddam creepy.
In any case good for him. I don't know what kind of damage he's incurred, but here's hoping he's managing to pull himself back together.
Many years ago during a conversation with one of these "progressive" types I made some mention of my being "a fat piece of shit". She replied with something like "that's not a healthy way of thinking about yourself; you should be happy with your body as-is".
This person was also fat, and when she said that it occurred to me that with her attitude she'd always be fat, but with my attitude there was at least a chance I'd try to not be. So whose attitude was actually the "healthy" one?
It all goes back to "change what you can, accept what you cannot". It's hard to fix fat, but you can do it. You both know it's a hard fight, so she has clearly conceded defeat (while you may not have won the fight, at least you're still swinging). Now look what this guy in OP's picture did, trying to fix looking homely rather than managing to come to terms with hid own body, learn to accept and love it as it is, and then work what attractive traits he does have. That top pic was when he wasn't accepting his own positive traits, and dear God was it a nightmare. But in the bottom pic, he at least looked pretty average, and so much more in control of his own opinions on who and what kind if person he is. Definite win for him and his self esteem.
It's that and a recognition that the "ideal self" must be grounded in reality. In my case part of the "ideal me" involves being a healthy weight, because humans do in fact have an optimal weight that I was well in excess of. In this guy's case it has to involve being a guy, because he is in fact a guy.
This guy to his credit correctly observed that "ideal him" didn't include whatever severe mental health issues he had. But since his "ideal self" wasn't grounded in reality (thinking he was a woman instead of a man) it didn't actually fix his mental health problem.
Then to top it all off, when he looked like a sideshow freak he doubtless had people telling him "you should be happy with who you are", which was doing him no favors. If he at least tried to make himself look like an attractive woman one could attempt the argument that his sense of "ideal self" had a rudimentary grounding in reality (in that he understands what an attractive woman looks like and that he was not attractive). But that's not the case.
If that "ideal self" isn't grounded in reality then you get what this dude was doing to himself. Perhaps he is no closer to his sense of "ideal self" than he was when he pretended to be a woman, but that sense of self is now grounded in reality which is a net positive for him.
If you make your sense of "ideal self" equal to "actual self" at all times then you never have incentive to improve yourself. One is free to have that sense of "ideal self", but having it is not and should not be considered a virtue. Unfortunately we have a bunch of people running around saying it is, and it will be our end.
The idea of happiness as a primary goal has been a disaster for the human race.
The idea that self indulgence equates to happiness. That's the real kicker.
so are you still a fat piece of shit?
Yes but far less of one than I was when this occurred, and moving towards not being one at all.