YouTuber Ethan Klein calls for bombing of NRA conference - Kotaku In Action 2

YouTuber Ethan Klein calls for bombing of NRA conference (thepostmillennial.com)

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

So it was followed by more of the ceasefire, except the places where the Russians kept attacking saying the ceasefire agreement didn't cover these (Donetsk Airport zone chiefly). But yeah, outrageous. Words are violence.

Clearly specifying your intent to commit crime against humanity while shelling civilian areas seems like it is damning, but unfortunately, there is the friend-enemy distinction again.

You may ask yourself why I have no trouble at all condemning the bad stuff Russia does, but you have trouble condemning this sort of thing.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

By only responding in kind, in the sort of "sow winds reap whirlwind" speech by Bomber Harris, except only as populist rehtoric to some local people wanting revenge and not actual intent.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I am not sure what you even mean. But I am sure that if supposed retaliation justifies bombing civilians, the Russians believe they're absolutely justified in what they are doing.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Actually in reality it had nothing to do with bombing anyone and you instantly believed a phrase taken out of context without checking the context.

The full speech:

This war can’t be won with weapons. Every bullet produces two enemies. And every peaceful day Ukrainian state demonstrates on the liberated territories that citizens, who sang praises to false separatist regime a month ago, receive heat, electricity, at last they can send their children to school, they started to receive pensions, survivorship and disablement payments, they have jobs, they have salaries.

And from the other side – I have spoken by phone with a woman, the associate professor of Taras Shevchenko Luhansk University. I have asked her: “How do you spend your day?” and she has answered me: “I get up at 5 am in order to reserve a place in a queue and to get two pots of water. As we have no water. I return home at 10 am and hurry to a queue for bread. One and a half loaves of bread. Till 12 o’clock there would be no bread. I return from there and stay at home from that moment because armed men start to appear in streets from 2 pm and they could shoot everyone”.

My dear people of Odesa! This is what we avoided thanks to your wisdom, your solidarity. And thanks to – now we all are confident about this – your pro-Ukrainian position. I was full of joy, when after visiting Odesa the delegation of the OSCE made a conclusion that Odesa is a city of harmony, the city of peace. There can’t be a better compliment. I was very happy about it. Thank you for your wisdom, people of Odesa!

And we win together by means of peace! Because we have jobs, and they have not. We have pensions, and they have not. We have support of children and pensioners, they have not. Our children would go to kindergartens and schools, theirs would be sitting in cellars. Because they do not know anything how to do! That’s how we are going to win this war. Because wars are won in minds, and not on the combat fields! They do not know this, but I know. And I have your support, I need it very much in order we win this war without perished Ukrainians, without perished inhabitants of Odesa.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

you instantly believed a phrase taken out of context without checking the context.

I actually tried finding the context, but no deal. Considering that it was written up in GAE media about one of their puppets, it is quite believable.

conclusion that Odesa is a city of harmony, the city of peace.

Didn't pro-Ukrainian thugs burn to death dozens of Russian-friendly citizens in Odessa, for which exactly 0 of them were punished, while Ukrainians celebrated this 'May barbecue' for years?

And we win together by means of peace! Because we have jobs, and they have not. We have pensions, and they have not. We have support of children and pensioners, they have not. Our children would go to kindergartens and schools, theirs would be sitting in cellars. Because they do not know anything how to do!

Or maybe because you're shelling them...

This is what I don't understand. Why is it so hard to concede that Ukraine did anything wrong? This would be like me saying "Russia did nothing in Bucha, and even if it did, it was 100% justified because revenge". C'mon man. Try to look at this a bit more objectively.

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... continue reading thread?