YouTuber Ethan Klein calls for bombing of NRA conference
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'Everybody' here apparently meaning right-wing and left-wing populists, who have precisely zero influence - which is why Trump intensified the drone strikes to zero criticism.
Biden can 'accidentally' blow up an Afghan family, and no one cared. When Putin's artillery hits a family, he's a war criminal. You can cite Western hypocrisy for days, as it is their state religion, it's just not very productive.
Chechnya? Now compare the outrage of the hypocrite West over Bucha to My Lai.
They hate the nation, but they love the Empire.
You make some fair points, but when have you ever seen the media contemporaneously cover America's wars the way they cover what Russia does? Whenever they admit they did something wrong, it's always in the past. Sort of like the CIA strategy, "we did bad things 30 years ago, but now now" - and they say this regardless of the year.
People cared a whole lot. Disproportionately. The journalists around the world reported it, investigated it thoroughly (denying the official story), and we discussed it in multiple threads. But when thousands died in Mariupol only few were given names and faces by the only journalists remaining in the besieged city before their escape (the Russians were looking for them), and it's also old news and forgotten already. And the "discussion" here was so disrespectful to the victims, typically for this place.
Dude, no one defends (or denies) "My Lai" (Son My) even in America. The helicopter pilots who rescued villagers by threatening to kill infantrymen were given medals. What "hypocrite West"? Politkovskaya in A Small Corner of Hell wrote about "heroes and medals", medals are given to literal murderers, but (her example) a major who single handedly rescued dozens of elderly (ethnic Russian) people from the house of blind during the destruction of Grozny got no awards or recognition because he saved people and didn't kill them. She too was later murdered.
There was literally nothing wrong about the Highway of Death. A textbook great military victory. The Russians did a mini version in Kherson on the first day (over 100 retreating Ukrainian vehicles hit or abandoned on a single road) and there was also nothing wrong with this by itself.
It is a criminal offense in Russia to even write truth about WWII (up to 5 years for "falsifying history").
Yeah, Charlie Savage of the NYT said that "the US has an incredible line into ISIS-K".
Most journalists are propagandists. They deserve no respect, except if they were there to actually tell the truth, rather than spread talking points of the American empire..
Belatedly. At the time, there were songs in support of Calley, claiming that he was persecuted for doing his duty, and he and a fellow miscreant were pardoned by Nixon. And what they did is worse than anything the Russians are alleged to have done in Bucha, though I also do not see other Russian troops threatening them with force to stop such things.
I did not argue that there was, though it is regretful that a country with such a low birth rate should lose people.
Which truths?
The New York Times uncovered the true story.
You don't even know what the word empire means. Or you do but you just don't care.
Or maybe the Emperor Trump meme broke your mind.
The support of Calley were also from the anti-war people, who were saying he was being scapegoated. They weren't wrong.
No, it wasn't worse. It was similar. Also rape, also torture. No looting because nothing to loot.
There's a story of a group of Russian soldiers, one known by name, who began very polite and friendly (and scared and sympathetic), I thought they would be the good guys in it. Well, they weren't.
Basic truths such the Soviet-Nazi alliance of 1939-41.
Yes, after its 'journalists' had praised the USG into the skies for this attack. I will also note that no one was punished for this. It's like the Russians saying: "oops, I guess we did kill some innocent people, water under the bridge, amirite?"
If the American Empire is not an empire, the Roman Empire wasn't an empire, the Delian League was not an empire, the League of Corinth was not an Empire. Alliances are empires, particularly when there is one dominant partner.
They were absolutely wrong, as no one told him to go out and murder children and old men. An intentional, directed massacre on a scale that not even the current war propaganda has accused the Russians of - even Bucha was supposedly directed at military-aged men.
Show me where the Russians drove hundreds of civilians, including women, children and old men, into a ditch and offed them with machine gun fire.
And the Russians are not exactly known for their great regard for civilians.
Has anyone actually been convicted of that? Or is it another one of the hysterical Western claims about the Ruskies, like the imminent declaration of martial law and the murder of Shoigu?
The story in question: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/18/i-can-do-whatever-i-want-to-you (proper link).
A lot of "duality of man, sir" there.
Just "Bucha" is misleading as it was everywhere. And is, elsewhere.
It may be war propaganda, or it may be true. I don't know, just like I don't know where this site is getting its funding (perhaps from the EU/US like the Kiev Independent).
If true, unfortunately these soldiers will get as light a punishment as Calley.
But it doesn't matter for my argument. War is hell. That's why you try to prevent war, instead of stoking it like the Americans have done for the past 8 years.
"We send weapons to Ukraine so we fight Russia over there and we don't have to fight them over here."
-Adam Schiff