Before the USS Liberty there was the Lavon Affair
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Perhaps Oswald shot at JFK, but how did he get down those stairs so fast (after wiping all his fingerprints off the rifle and stashing it away) and not even be breathing hard? Standing by a payphone as if awaiting a call?
EDIT: He was first seen drinking a coke in the cafeteria, a cop ran in and found him standing beside a payphone, later one presumes.
2 witnesses (both Black) said Oswald was talking to a man in a trench coat when the police rolled up on them, and that the trench coat man ran off after the shooting. They didn't actually see the shot, iirc.
I know he punched the first officer in the face, but don't recall him being armed (he'd dropped 'his pistol' at the policeman's shooting). Might be mistaken on that.
EDIT: He dropped the 4 shell casings from his revolver, and left substantial other evidence behind at the scene as well. He did have the pistol in the theater, but didn't shoot anyone there.
The whole JFK fiasco will likely never be resolved, since they re-classified all the evidence for another 50 (iirc) years.
what are they hiding if it was a straight forward assassination by an individual
That it was funded/lead by the CIA in response to JFK wanting to shut it down.
Where has there been any documentation that JFK wanted to shut the CIA down. Thought he rejected some of their efforts, I've yet to see anything regarding them actually being in danger of being closed.
On top of that, consider what they did with Jimmy Carter. They conducted a full-scale war in Angola, and straight up didn't fucking tell him. This made the Soviets repeatedly confused, and assume Carter and the State Department were repeatedly acting in bad faith during negotiations when they knew what the CIA was up to, but Carter didn't.
The CIA is filled with professional liars. Why not just, you know, lie? Why would you need to assassinate a president. Fucking Nancy Pelosi got her computers raided when they released the torture memo. Again: no murders, just lies.
I thought the "scatter into a thousand pieces" thing was him wanting to shut down the intelligence agencies.
Exactly. The purpose of the Warren Commission (and coincidentally the 9/11 commission had a similar mission statement) was to 'prove JFK was assassinated by a lone gunman' or something to that effect. I have a paperback copy of the Warren Report and there it was, in the preface or introduction. I can't recall if Oswald was named, I think so? But clearly most of the men gathered did NOT like JFK at all, they were stooges who would do as they were told.
The evidence they focused on is matched by the evidence they ignored, or by the false evidence they claimed was true :<
I'm not sure I agree with any of those claims, but lets treat them at face value. I've literally descended several flights of stairs in a hurry and controlled my breathing and movement quite easily, because I also watched the JFK film from the 90's and have occasionally tested that. It's pretty easy to disguise your movements or distress if you've practiced it a few times.
In the theater? That's when the police actually approached him. He had a gun on him at the time.
Well, considering the cop was shot to death, he probably did a bit more than that.
As I recall, Oswald was being pursued, not for murdering JFK, but for the officer's shooting, because that was who witnesses originally identified.
No, when he shot the police officer on the street. JD Tippet, just 40 minutes after JFK was shot. He didn't shoot anyone in the theater, afaik.
He seems to have dropped the shell casings at that scene, so he did have his pistol at the theater? But he never shot anyone there.
There's also speculation that Oswald was inside the theater already when Tippet was shot... or arrived there minutes later when it was a long walk away :/
really long article, full of questionable stuff they explore ALL the possible theories regarding Tippet's shooting.
Best take-aways:
Also: the Dallas police force received (iirc) 300+ 'tips' on Oswald's location, but for the tips from a shoemaker and a theater worker they sent a LOT of men to a single theater. This would support the idea that Oswald was trying to contact his 'handler' as theaters were VERY often used as contact points back then. Possibly still are?
Iirc they had leaflets out with Oswald's picture on them & distributed within
an hour?in under 30 minutes. Rather remarkable since there were no Kinkos back then.I could be mistaken, but the endless parade of "questionable facts" in the Official Story are just too much to overlook. That and the history of all governments to lie to their own people with impunity.
Anyhow, it's always interesting to discuss and research the subject. I learned a bunch just now :>