Leftist as revolutionary? Yes. Leftist as collectivist? Yes. Leftist as government control of the economy? Yes. Leftist as cosmopolitan? No. Leftist as internationalist? No. Leftist culturally? No.
TBH Nazism is weird. The more I learn about it, the deeper I think it should be studied by the right, just to understand why it resisted so fiercely and why it failed. Instead its a bogeyman, and taboo to talk about it in detail. It's evil and verboten. Hitler word! Turn off brain!
Your bone with Nazism is the government role in central organization and puppeteering the economy. Fair point.
My bone is that it's a revolutionary ideology, and with the possible exception of the American Revolution, which was trying to conserve colonial self-rule in the face of British consolidation of power, revolutions are fucking messy, The odds are stacked against revolutions doing anything more than creating a pile of bodies and causing turnover in the elites. Revolutions destroy tradition, which is deeply ironic in the case of Nazism; in their attempt to 'save' the German tradition, the Nazis managed to poison and destroy it.
Nazism's failures are seriously fucking cautionary and mandatory study for anyone trying to oppose the current world order.
im pretty sure they were "resisted so fiercely" because they chased out (and even arrested) rothschild bankers and any country that opposes those bankers or is not in their power or tried to get out of their power ( like the many middle eastern countries )gets destroyed.
That bit about revolutions is all too true. Most revolutions go to shit upon success. Hell, America was a complete mess post-revolution and it took several decades, an industrial revolution, and arguably 2 world wars to unfuck it.
I would argue the "world order" was not fully established during the 30s, at least not as we know it today. Had WWII not happened, I genuinely believe the Nazis would have been around for a long time before they either collapsed under their own weight like the Soviet Union, or radically changed their economic policies like China. Part of me wonders what the world would look like if they didn't invade their neighbors and galvanize the world into war against them.
Part of me wonders what the world would look like if they didn't invade their neighbors and galvanize the world into war against them.
Yeah. How would the Nazis have failed internally, if they'd not been forced into collapse due to foreign factors? It's a question we'll never have a proper answer to, but worth asking. Here's another one: what would happen to the Third Reich after the power vacuum of Hitler dying? Interesting moot questions.
Leftist as revolutionary? Yes. Leftist as collectivist? Yes. Leftist as government control of the economy? Yes. Leftist as cosmopolitan? No. Leftist as internationalist? No. Leftist culturally? No.
TBH Nazism is weird. The more I learn about it, the deeper I think it should be studied by the right, just to understand why it resisted so fiercely and why it failed. Instead its a bogeyman, and taboo to talk about it in detail. It's evil and verboten. Hitler word! Turn off brain!
Your bone with Nazism is the government role in central organization and puppeteering the economy. Fair point.
My bone is that it's a revolutionary ideology, and with the possible exception of the American Revolution, which was trying to conserve colonial self-rule in the face of British consolidation of power, revolutions are fucking messy, The odds are stacked against revolutions doing anything more than creating a pile of bodies and causing turnover in the elites. Revolutions destroy tradition, which is deeply ironic in the case of Nazism; in their attempt to 'save' the German tradition, the Nazis managed to poison and destroy it.
Nazism's failures are seriously fucking cautionary and mandatory study for anyone trying to oppose the current world order.
im pretty sure they were "resisted so fiercely" because they chased out (and even arrested) rothschild bankers and any country that opposes those bankers or is not in their power or tried to get out of their power ( like the many middle eastern countries )gets destroyed.
That bit about revolutions is all too true. Most revolutions go to shit upon success. Hell, America was a complete mess post-revolution and it took several decades, an industrial revolution, and arguably 2 world wars to unfuck it.
I would argue the "world order" was not fully established during the 30s, at least not as we know it today. Had WWII not happened, I genuinely believe the Nazis would have been around for a long time before they either collapsed under their own weight like the Soviet Union, or radically changed their economic policies like China. Part of me wonders what the world would look like if they didn't invade their neighbors and galvanize the world into war against them.
Yeah. How would the Nazis have failed internally, if they'd not been forced into collapse due to foreign factors? It's a question we'll never have a proper answer to, but worth asking. Here's another one: what would happen to the Third Reich after the power vacuum of Hitler dying? Interesting moot questions.
The US's traditions are getting plenty of poison without us being Nazis or starting a revolution.
Arguably because the politically and culturally dominant force in the US is dual-national, rather than nationalists.
I don't need to say which nation.
You have to go pretty far back to get the US ruled by US nationalists. Teddy Roosevelt at least, IMHO.