The most "woke" part is a line from Catwoman, and it really makes her seem naive. The themes of the movie honestly seem almost "anti-woke".
For example, a major theme seems to be that we shouldn't be shackled to the wrongdoings of our ancestors, nor should we be punished for them. Another theme is that celebrity/hero worship is a bad thing. Finally, we're presented with the idea that a person can make a terrible mistake and still be a good person, which runs directly against cancel-culture. There even seems to be a message about how strong male figures are important in a child's life, which is just about as far from woke as one can get.
It's a different superhero movie to be sure, but it's not woke. At least not in my eyes. It's a mix of noir detective stuff and more traditional superhero tropes. Think "Seven" meets "The Dark Knight" and you're almost there.
I honestly think people were actively looking for wokeness (and who can blame them?) but that may have made them see woke aspects when, in reality, there really weren't many to be seen.
And it's fine that other people have differing opinions, I just felt like people claiming that the movie was supremely woke are being a bit misleading. The only real wokeness is a single line from Catwoman. Hell, even the casting isn't that woke honestly, as we already had a black Catwoman several decades ago and Billy Dee Williams played Harvey Dent in Burton's Batman. The actor who played Gordon is at least a GOOD actor, not some nobody who can't act.
I don't think they are being misleading.
Geeks and Gamers saw the same film as you and he said that the film did have identity politics. He said it didn't entirely ruin the movie for him but that it was there.
Different people have different levels of woke they will tolerate at this point.
My stance is that anything that even has a drop of woke is worth not supporting with your money.
It seems you have a different threshold than the other people who disagree with you on the level of woke in the film.
That's what I mean. There weren't any identity politics. No one is really painted as good or bad because of their identity. Catwoman's line is the closest we get to something like that, but it paints her as naive instead. The Riddler isn't bad because he's white, it's because he's got a warped sense of justice. Catwoman isn't good because she's black...hell, she's not really shown to be "good" anyway. She portrayed as a petty, selfish child who only wants revenge and money.
"There weren't any identity politics."
Press X to doubt.
Literally every film reviewer that I still trust has said the film does have identity politics. It may not completely ruin the film but it is clearly there.
The level of idpol in this film was maybe tolerable to you but other people clearly have different opinions.
You are trying to argue your opinion as fact here.
Why do you care if other people point out the clearly visible idpol in this film?
If you liked the film then that should be all that matters to you.
it's not subversion because they already subverted it 20 years ago!
lol
Try 60 years ago