Probably not. It's your standard Battle Of Algeris style tactic. It becomes impossible for the occupying force to know when it is under attack, and by whom.
I have noticed this line of accusation toward the Ukrainians where they assume everything is about making bad press for the Russians. The most cited instance I have seen being that "The only reason the Ukrainians would arm the citizens of Kiev is to get dead civilians for the press." Which doesnt make sense to me for several reasons.
God forbid the people stand up for their homes, and at least die screaming so that Putin cant get the easy win. And it has been extremely weird to me to see hardcore ethno-nat types going all rootless cosmopolitan when it comes to Ukraine ("just surrender and stop fighting, and if you dont like the Russians just leave")
This ignores that there is a well established tradition in history of the citizens taking up any and every arm available to them when their home is threatened, and fighting like men possessed to do it. Probably one of the most famous examples being the 1648 Battle of Prague, where the people of Prague decided to fight back against the Swedish Army, even though this was at the height of Swedish power and that the army included the elite Carolean shock troops. And through nothing but guts, balls, and sheer raw determination, they managed to hold the line until a true force could end the fight.
While I am sure some were forced into it, it seems like the overwhelming majority of citizens are taking up the fight willingly, and will use outdated AK's and molotov cocktails if that is what it takes to keep their land.
And I would argue that the reason that Putin has been so slow compared to what everyone expected is because he thought he would just walk in, and didnt expect civilians to be hounding his troops everywhere they go once they got out of Donbas. Which is why you continue to see absolute rando's yoinking Russian military equipment.
This ignores that there is a well established tradition in history of the citizens taking up any and every arm available to them when their home is threatened
While I am sure some were forced into it, it seems like the overwhelming majority of citizens are taking up the fight willingly
Ok, I feel you're missing the bigger picture here with your 3 points :
People are being armed by the Government. This isn't citizens using their own arms to defend their homes.
Usually, Citizens defending home and hearth is the LAST LINE of defense. Not the first. This conflict is like 3 days old now, and already, citizens are being armed and told to go fight, with little organisation or training. Where's the Ukrainian defense forces ?
You can't claim this is them taking it willingly when they're being told how evil the Russians are and how fighting them will save their country. They're being propagandized into fighting, and propaganda is a form of at least deceptive coercion.
Well, yeah. But when its all you have, you use what you got. Its absolutely not optimal, and it shows the advantages of the US 2nd Amendment (since everyone is already trained with their guns before the shooting starts). But when you are in an existential threat situation, you make do with anything you have.
"Where's the Ukrainian defense forces ?" From the sound of it, they are locked down in the East and South, and those that arent are doing sneaky beaky shit and raiding Russian convoys and reinforcement columns. So there arent really a lot to lock down Kiev, which is where the militia comes in. It is the last line of defense, because THEY ARE IN "last line of defense" mode.
What are you on about? The Kievan has hated the Muscovite for centuries. They hated each other in Medieval times. They hated each other when they were joined by force under the Russian Empire. The Soviets committed a genocide against them. I can assure you, there was no need for propaganda, the rage is quite genuine. Just because Vladimir wants to pretend that "Ukraine" is a myth doesnt make it so. And its why you are seeing such intense resistance in the face of long odd.
Probably not. It's your standard Battle Of Algeris style tactic. It becomes impossible for the occupying force to know when it is under attack, and by whom.
I have noticed this line of accusation toward the Ukrainians where they assume everything is about making bad press for the Russians. The most cited instance I have seen being that "The only reason the Ukrainians would arm the citizens of Kiev is to get dead civilians for the press." Which doesnt make sense to me for several reasons.
God forbid the people stand up for their homes, and at least die screaming so that Putin cant get the easy win. And it has been extremely weird to me to see hardcore ethno-nat types going all rootless cosmopolitan when it comes to Ukraine ("just surrender and stop fighting, and if you dont like the Russians just leave")
This ignores that there is a well established tradition in history of the citizens taking up any and every arm available to them when their home is threatened, and fighting like men possessed to do it. Probably one of the most famous examples being the 1648 Battle of Prague, where the people of Prague decided to fight back against the Swedish Army, even though this was at the height of Swedish power and that the army included the elite Carolean shock troops. And through nothing but guts, balls, and sheer raw determination, they managed to hold the line until a true force could end the fight.
While I am sure some were forced into it, it seems like the overwhelming majority of citizens are taking up the fight willingly, and will use outdated AK's and molotov cocktails if that is what it takes to keep their land.
And I would argue that the reason that Putin has been so slow compared to what everyone expected is because he thought he would just walk in, and didnt expect civilians to be hounding his troops everywhere they go once they got out of Donbas. Which is why you continue to see absolute rando's yoinking Russian military equipment.
Ok, I feel you're missing the bigger picture here with your 3 points :
People are being armed by the Government. This isn't citizens using their own arms to defend their homes.
Usually, Citizens defending home and hearth is the LAST LINE of defense. Not the first. This conflict is like 3 days old now, and already, citizens are being armed and told to go fight, with little organisation or training. Where's the Ukrainian defense forces ?
You can't claim this is them taking it willingly when they're being told how evil the Russians are and how fighting them will save their country. They're being propagandized into fighting, and propaganda is a form of at least deceptive coercion.
Well, yeah. But when its all you have, you use what you got. Its absolutely not optimal, and it shows the advantages of the US 2nd Amendment (since everyone is already trained with their guns before the shooting starts). But when you are in an existential threat situation, you make do with anything you have.
"Where's the Ukrainian defense forces ?" From the sound of it, they are locked down in the East and South, and those that arent are doing sneaky beaky shit and raiding Russian convoys and reinforcement columns. So there arent really a lot to lock down Kiev, which is where the militia comes in. It is the last line of defense, because THEY ARE IN "last line of defense" mode.
What are you on about? The Kievan has hated the Muscovite for centuries. They hated each other in Medieval times. They hated each other when they were joined by force under the Russian Empire. The Soviets committed a genocide against them. I can assure you, there was no need for propaganda, the rage is quite genuine. Just because Vladimir wants to pretend that "Ukraine" is a myth doesnt make it so. And its why you are seeing such intense resistance in the face of long odd.