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posted 3 years ago by ThatsAlright 3 years ago by ThatsAlright +44 / -2
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– blackestknight 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

If Russia wanted to destroy Ukraine, they would have carpet bombed the whole thing and never blinked.

A ground invasion that doesn't even roll over people who get in the way of tanks doesn't scream "Destruction!".

Obviously people saying Russia's goal is destruction are not being honest or aren't really well informed.

The thing to ask yourself is who are these convicts even going to fight ? Imagine you've been held prisoner by an entity for a while, and they suddenly ask you to fight for them, would you ? This screams desperation.

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– current_horror 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

The Ukraine government armed the civilian population, and they immediately started shooting each other. That was the behavior of the people who weren’t convicted criminals currently imprisoned by the state.

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– Killroyomega 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Obviously people saying Russia's goal is destruction are not being honest or aren't really well informed.

They're either retarded reddit tier faggots, or outright liars trying to force a narrative.

Putin is no fool.

He wants to take and hold Ukraine. That's why his troop movement is slow and methodical.

Create forward base, clear area, move up, take area, create forward base, old base becomes supply area, repeat.

Putin is intentionally avoiding civilian infrastructure, roads, and bridges.

Anyway with half a brain can put two and two together to get what's going on.

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– Yakuza 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The thing to ask yourself is who are these convicts even going to fight?

Same with the men they are blocking at the border and conscripting. Why would they make good allies?

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– blackestknight 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I'm not so sure that they are looking for wholesale slaughter. Destruction of economic and military targets however? Seems like that's what they are aiming for at the moment.

Yes, demilitarization to create a buffer between Russia and the bulk of NATO. This however requires maintaining civilian infrastructure and a functionning seat of power to preserve this buffer zone.

It doesn't scream "occupation" either. From what little credible info we have, there hasn't been any occupation of cities outside of the "breakaway" Eastern regions.

Exactly, Russia doesn't seem to be forceful. Puts in doubt the western propaganda about the conflict.

I'd disagree. Russia's got a dying demographic. The worst possible thing to happen to Russia would be to become bogged down in another Russian-Afghanistan style occupation. Putin is too smart for that.

That however doesn't require destruction, merely installing a puppet Government, not unlike what the US did in 2014.

If your objective was to bleed the Russians into submission, arming everyone with a trigger finger is a good way to start. Obviously it has it's drawbacks in that someone will need to stabilize Ukraine after the war ends. Whoever it'll be will have their work cut out for them.

Seems counterintuitive. Arming convicts seems like it would just result in a crime spike and probably friendly fire. Heck, those convicts could even try to defect to Russia in order to maybe gain amnesty.

Frankly, even arming normal citizens seems like a recipe to escalate conflict and create more casualties than anything that would halt the Russian advance.

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