There's always been something else to the story. Whether or not it's exactly this, I think it's close to the truth. The anti-Russia argument is same old hypocrisy we are used to. They call Putin the tyrannical madman, when in reality their government is a corrupt oligarchy dominated by megacorps friendly with Putin, sound familiar? Russia should never expand their sphere of influence, but NATO can expand all they want I guess because we like them.
I'm not saying invasion ever should have been the answer, but you also have to think of it from the perspective that the whole world hates you because of what you were 30+ years ago and your only real large ally is the true evil sneaky manipulator. The West seriously dropped the ball in the Yeltsin days when they didn't take the opportunity to build the Russian Federation into a powerful ally and instead punished them for being the loser. Sounds about like Weimar Germany.
This is perhaps the problem, but they just didn't want to. It's been decades since Ukraine first asked, long before the conflict began and since this moment couldn't join because such as the written rules.
The West seriously dropped the ball in the Yeltsin days when they didn't take the opportunity to build the Russian Federation into a powerful ally
What sort of coddling and enabling of "our Russian partners" wasn't done by the countries such as Germany in particular but also for example America or Britain during the 1990s?
You'd think there was a crisis during the rule of Schroeder at the end of the 1990s, but then he went to become paid Russian lobbyist to this day.
They didn't expand to Ukraine. NATO has added the Baltics, Romania, Bulgaria, and many of the Balkan states in the 2000s.
Things I've read seem to indicate more of the coddling was geared towards the former SSRs, and specifically not the Russian one itself. Still, I was a kid/teenager in the 90s and really didn't get interested in cold war history until the early 2000s. So, this is all based on reading mostly. I actually think we've done a shit job with Ukraine as well, just building up the corruption even more so it can be used as a political plaything to the benefit of western politicians. Russia will just do the same thing to it's own benefit.
Because none of them were in an armed conflict, see. Also have pulled out the necessary reforms first and went through all the milestones needed.
Back in 1990 even the Soviet Union wanted to join. The late Gorbachev era was a weird time, in Poland we've been unironically singing a pop song about how cool he was (for an old Soviet).
There's always been something else to the story. Whether or not it's exactly this, I think it's close to the truth. The anti-Russia argument is same old hypocrisy we are used to. They call Putin the tyrannical madman, when in reality their government is a corrupt oligarchy dominated by megacorps friendly with Putin, sound familiar? Russia should never expand their sphere of influence, but NATO can expand all they want I guess because we like them.
I'm not saying invasion ever should have been the answer, but you also have to think of it from the perspective that the whole world hates you because of what you were 30+ years ago and your only real large ally is the true evil sneaky manipulator. The West seriously dropped the ball in the Yeltsin days when they didn't take the opportunity to build the Russian Federation into a powerful ally and instead punished them for being the loser. Sounds about like Weimar Germany.
They didn't want.
This is perhaps the problem, but they just didn't want to. It's been decades since Ukraine first asked, long before the conflict began and since this moment couldn't join because such as the written rules.
What sort of coddling and enabling of "our Russian partners" wasn't done by the countries such as Germany in particular but also for example America or Britain during the 1990s?
You'd think there was a crisis during the rule of Schroeder at the end of the 1990s, but then he went to become paid Russian lobbyist to this day.
They didn't expand to Ukraine. NATO has added the Baltics, Romania, Bulgaria, and many of the Balkan states in the 2000s.
Things I've read seem to indicate more of the coddling was geared towards the former SSRs, and specifically not the Russian one itself. Still, I was a kid/teenager in the 90s and really didn't get interested in cold war history until the early 2000s. So, this is all based on reading mostly. I actually think we've done a shit job with Ukraine as well, just building up the corruption even more so it can be used as a political plaything to the benefit of western politicians. Russia will just do the same thing to it's own benefit.
Because none of them were in an armed conflict, see. Also have pulled out the necessary reforms first and went through all the milestones needed.
Back in 1990 even the Soviet Union wanted to join. The late Gorbachev era was a weird time, in Poland we've been unironically singing a pop song about how cool he was (for an old Soviet).
Also I see a highly relevant surname lol