In response, the Left will ditch it's Secularism and embrace what South America commonly refers to as "Liberation Theology".
Speaking of South America (and giving hints at your 4th Great Awakening theory), there is some rumblings I have heard from within my own church (a Lutheran one of the Missouri Synod). Specifically, there is actually a huge amount of South American Catholics who are converting to the various Protestant faiths, especially those based out of the US like Baptist, Pentecostals, Presbyterians, and yes, American Lutherans. Because apparently the Pope embracing wokeness may have sat well with the establishment and the "culturally Catholic" types (see: Most of the hardcore Dems who ignore every facet of the faith), it didnt go down so hot with the actual practicing Catholics in South America. So now the Protestants are walking on in and saying "So now that the Pope has betrayed you, how about you come with us who still follow Christ?"
Another thing that I think is interesting is that a lot of the younger Christians (millennials like me and especially Zoomers) are not their daddies Christians, the kind you [correctly] call the "Jesus Take the Wheel" types. If you want the typical result I am seeing, the most well known example would be Lord Miles of Kabul and Sudan. They follow the word of God, they hold to the moral codes, and they enjoy the sense of community that church provides. But then they turn around and shitpost on 4Chan, they see Creationism as just as much of a meme as Flat-Earth, they dont see a need to go and scream to everyone about how absolutely Christian they are, and honestly dont really see a need to go and evangelize to people ("God will call to those who will answer"). They also generally have a much more open taste of things that should be allowed, looser than the Leftist SJW's ironically. Like, most younger Christians I know are huge fans of things like video games, anime, and superheroes, and are not particularly concerned with things like scantily clad women. Hell, I have even heard some of the younger ones going full traditional and arguing "Why should we be offended by the human form?" And of course, they are getting sick and tired of the SJW's trying to break their favorite things.
And honestly, I think it will be better for everyone, from the Religious to the Atheist, that this is the direction things seem to be moving on that front.
I admit: I didn't see that shit coming. Lutheranism is weird, it seems to also be particularly strict. Martin Luther was weird dude.
(see: Most of the hardcore Dems who ignore every facet of the faith)
Oh yeah, the pro-Abrortion Catholics? Schism now.
Like, most younger Christians I know are huge fans of things like video games, anime, and superheroes, and are not particularly concerned with things like scantily clad women. Hell, I have even heard some of the younger ones going full traditional and arguing "Why should we be offended by the human form?" And of course, they are getting sick and tired of the SJW's trying to break their favorite things.
This is where we come in. Especially since we're all getting older. We're going to need to help all those 14 year old Zoomers to steer away from Leftist degeneracy. The more kids we hold back from being consumed, the more permanent anti-Leftists we will have in society, and the more developed the anti-Left will become.
Lutheranism is weird, it seems to also be particularly strict. Martin Luther was weird dude.
To be fair, a ton of us are descended from North Germans and Scandinavians, who were some of the most Protestant people on the planet and came to the US because they were sick of the bullshit happening in Europe (what else is new). So much so that my church still has a tradition of where when we sing Silent Night for Christmas, we turn off all of the lights except for candles, and then we sing it in German instead of English.
And yes, Lutheranism is one of the more conservative sects of Protestants (not as conservative as the Baptist, but not far off). But your are right that we are a little on the weird side. Because we value free thought and expression above dogma, since it was the suppression of free thought and expression in the name of dogma that led to us existing in the first place, and many of our ancestors had to shoot their way out of having to listen to what the Pope says. So you end up with situations where I once told my pastor that I disagreed with him over the message of a sermon, and his response was "I am glad you are listening and thinking instead of blindly believing me.", and they know that my fiancé is Bisexual but dont say anything about it (even if she sometimes gets shot dirty looks).
This is where we come in.
Yep. And a lot of them didnt even need to be told, they figured it out on their own. Like I have been saying, I have in the past few years met a ton of Zoomers that I knew had been degenerate, woke Communist that are now Christians (albeit the laidback variety I described in my other post) and Anti-Establishment Populist or Libertarians. Because they saw everything that happened over the last few years, realized how empty their lives were and how messed up they were becoming, even though the people who believed everything they did had all of the power. So they finally started to realize that maybe they were wrong and/or had been lied to, and so they came looking for meaning. I know you consider yourself an Anti-Theist, but I am sure even you would admit that its at least a step in the right direction, and there are ones like me there to make sure they dont go screaming off into being zealots like existed more in the 90's (because "Remember why you hate the SJW's, and dont just become a Christian SJW").
Speaking of South America (and giving hints at your 4th Great Awakening theory), there is some rumblings I have heard from within my own church (a Lutheran one of the Missouri Synod). Specifically, there is actually a huge amount of South American Catholics who are converting to the various Protestant faiths, especially those based out of the US like Baptist, Pentecostals, Presbyterians, and yes, American Lutherans. Because apparently the Pope embracing wokeness may have sat well with the establishment and the "culturally Catholic" types (see: Most of the hardcore Dems who ignore every facet of the faith), it didnt go down so hot with the actual practicing Catholics in South America. So now the Protestants are walking on in and saying "So now that the Pope has betrayed you, how about you come with us who still follow Christ?"
Another thing that I think is interesting is that a lot of the younger Christians (millennials like me and especially Zoomers) are not their daddies Christians, the kind you [correctly] call the "Jesus Take the Wheel" types. If you want the typical result I am seeing, the most well known example would be Lord Miles of Kabul and Sudan. They follow the word of God, they hold to the moral codes, and they enjoy the sense of community that church provides. But then they turn around and shitpost on 4Chan, they see Creationism as just as much of a meme as Flat-Earth, they dont see a need to go and scream to everyone about how absolutely Christian they are, and honestly dont really see a need to go and evangelize to people ("God will call to those who will answer"). They also generally have a much more open taste of things that should be allowed, looser than the Leftist SJW's ironically. Like, most younger Christians I know are huge fans of things like video games, anime, and superheroes, and are not particularly concerned with things like scantily clad women. Hell, I have even heard some of the younger ones going full traditional and arguing "Why should we be offended by the human form?" And of course, they are getting sick and tired of the SJW's trying to break their favorite things.
And honestly, I think it will be better for everyone, from the Religious to the Atheist, that this is the direction things seem to be moving on that front.
I admit: I didn't see that shit coming. Lutheranism is weird, it seems to also be particularly strict. Martin Luther was weird dude.
Oh yeah, the pro-Abrortion Catholics? Schism now.
This is where we come in. Especially since we're all getting older. We're going to need to help all those 14 year old Zoomers to steer away from Leftist degeneracy. The more kids we hold back from being consumed, the more permanent anti-Leftists we will have in society, and the more developed the anti-Left will become.
To be fair, a ton of us are descended from North Germans and Scandinavians, who were some of the most Protestant people on the planet and came to the US because they were sick of the bullshit happening in Europe (what else is new). So much so that my church still has a tradition of where when we sing Silent Night for Christmas, we turn off all of the lights except for candles, and then we sing it in German instead of English.
And yes, Lutheranism is one of the more conservative sects of Protestants (not as conservative as the Baptist, but not far off). But your are right that we are a little on the weird side. Because we value free thought and expression above dogma, since it was the suppression of free thought and expression in the name of dogma that led to us existing in the first place, and many of our ancestors had to shoot their way out of having to listen to what the Pope says. So you end up with situations where I once told my pastor that I disagreed with him over the message of a sermon, and his response was "I am glad you are listening and thinking instead of blindly believing me.", and they know that my fiancé is Bisexual but dont say anything about it (even if she sometimes gets shot dirty looks).
Yep. And a lot of them didnt even need to be told, they figured it out on their own. Like I have been saying, I have in the past few years met a ton of Zoomers that I knew had been degenerate, woke Communist that are now Christians (albeit the laidback variety I described in my other post) and Anti-Establishment Populist or Libertarians. Because they saw everything that happened over the last few years, realized how empty their lives were and how messed up they were becoming, even though the people who believed everything they did had all of the power. So they finally started to realize that maybe they were wrong and/or had been lied to, and so they came looking for meaning. I know you consider yourself an Anti-Theist, but I am sure even you would admit that its at least a step in the right direction, and there are ones like me there to make sure they dont go screaming off into being zealots like existed more in the 90's (because "Remember why you hate the SJW's, and dont just become a Christian SJW").