In Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969), the Court overturned the conviction of Clarence Brandenburg, a member of the Ku Klux Klan who had made inflammatory statements, by insisting that it would only punish advocacy that "is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action."
The Bradenburg “test” is still the principle used today to legally judge advocacy of violence. Imminent and produce being the key words here.
Per the rules which have been horrendously written. Rule 2: Do not engage in speech that promotes, advocates, glorifies, or endorses violence.
As there is no context provided for what constitutes “violence” I’m going to start reporting every comment since words can fall under violence. As people here regularly play games, any mention of any game that contains violence, real or imaginary, must be removed as the display of violence is promoting of it. Any media that has glorified or promoted violence will also not be permitted as to reference to them would also promote violence.
I would highly encourage DoM or AoV to rewrite rule 2 and 16. As it would only take a few people tired of the subjective subjugation to start spamming reports.
Why then, if it's not a felony, would you be policing legal speech?
The only potential answers that I can see are "because that's how it was on reddit", and "because that's the way I want it."
And hopefully you can see the problem with those. The first quite simply shouldn't be happening, because if the rules aren't going to be substantially different than the leftist instituted insanity of reddit then there really isn't any reason for this board to exist, and the second pretty much confirms the concerns of people who are worried about subjectivity.
That could reasonably fall under rule 3, as proclaiming someone by name adds a level of specificity. There is a case to be made that naming specific users, rather than generic terms, would be deserving of more scrutiny in any particular instance.
You've even said something similar yourself in the past about rule 3, with regards to the various squabblings about Dr. Jester. Who by the way should start getting temp bans at least when he spams that pedo shit.
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/141FFJuQnQ/x/c/4OTNC9nUBEe
For the most part, it's about the tactics of information warfare being directed against the sub by multiple different factions. I truly wish this wasn't something I had to be concerned about, but it kind of is. It seems like anyone who desires even minimal advertising or propaganda efforts comes to forums with 10 accounts, 30 bots, and an agenda on how they are going to cultivate it into what they want, or fucking destroy the whole god damned thing.
I warned him yesterday. I especially do not want to try and start a inter-forum war on .win There's more than enough of that stupid shit on Reddit, and the ConPro mods, whatever they think of me, haven't tried to be assholes. I'm not trying to pick a fight with either ConPro or KIA, so I've got no need of people starting shit. He doesn't like posts being made specifically about him, and it's also why I don't want people making posts about anyone on the forum. Sure, make posts about stupid forums or topics you don't like, but really don't make posts about how one of our own users on our own forum is stupid so that everyone can get together and belittle them in a single place.
I don't think ConPro should be allowing it on their side because it cultivates animosity, but it's not my forum, so I don't want to intrude unless I feel like it's getting out of hand, or there is any genuine brigading attempts. I think for the most part, it's what us and KIA had: over-lapping users.
This is a reddit-ism. Alexis Ohanian and his cabal of pedophiles aren't breathing down your neck waiting for an excuse to shut down the board, nor are the Bolsheviks in AHS present here either. Win pretty much exists so that people don't have to care about that kind of shit.
As for botters they're easy to spot and the admins here aren't literally bought by the ChiComs, so it isn't like it's a matter of that.
As for law enforcement, if TD hasn't earned the Eye of Sauron yet, I doubt we will either. Hell, if friggin Gab hasn't been shut down yet, I doubt we will.
Bane's sub has no active users to speak of, so I doubt that's a concern. As for Consume Product, I rarely see them here at all but perhaps I should have a closer look.
It's not a Redditism. Yes, the Leftists are looking to shutdown .win as a whole because .win is repeatedly under attack. Probably either once a month or every other month, they are dealing with DDOS attacks that require action on their part. Then there's always the danger of fedposting and Leftists who really are seeking to subvert and destroy the sub.
For Bots, we have huge problems with bots. It's the thing I get the most complaints about.
And Gab was shut down. People still attack Gab, and Fedposting happens on all of the different site. In reality, the alt-right tend to keep relatively quiet except for spergs and they are pretty few in number. If you were just going off posts, you'd think that 30% of the right was made of antisemites.
As for Consume Product, they are here all the time. And honestly, mostly talking about jews. I'd say it's a dozen or so users that I see regularly.
A few things to unpack here.
Firstly, of course they want it shut down. Leftists are tyrants and they seek nothing less than the destruction of humanity.
That said, DDOS attacks aren't exactly something that justifies having a vague rule against "violence" in the board's rules.
Fedposting isn't relevant. They can't actually do anything. The vast majority of that false flag crap on reddit was done by AHS and other such subs to try and shut down things that weren't leftist... because they could abuse reddit's subjective rules and Marxist friendly admins. Which they can't do because for one they aren't here, and for two the admins don't care either way.
Not by law enforcement no. That's what we were talking about. This site's admins aren't beholden to that kind of crap or we'd have been gone 21 January 2021.
Who cares? Only liberals give a rat's ass about "hate" as though Star Wars morality were actually real.
And once again, if their board can exist on Win without getting deleted by law enforcement, there is no particular reason for us to be afraid either.