I literally told one of my friends to take it. He weighs 450 lbs and needs a breathing machine to sleep. He basically had to get it to get a real job. If he got Alpha or Delta, his ass was gonna die, simple as. Best case scenario, they would have shoved him on a ventilator, which would have probably blown out his lungs, overwhelmed his respiratory system, and killed him.
I think it was the J&J vaccine he got, so it wasn't even one of the better ones. The likelihood he was going to get Covid was very high because he still likes to socialize and have gatherings with friends whenever he can. We can only hope that when he gets Covid, like all people we know will, his exposure to the vaccine will reduce his symptoms to keep him alive, God willing, maybe even out of the hospital.
I'd prefer to have him get the non-mRNA vaccines, but especially during the Alpha strain, the hospital would have killed him as likely as the virus. So the vaccine isn't probably going to pose any more of a risk than his diet... so fuck it. Hopefully with the Novavax vaccine coming to the states, he can get that and have something closer to proper resistance when he gets infected.
Hopefully with the Novavax vaccine coming to the states, he can get that and have something closer to proper resistance when he gets infected.
Why not endorse ivermectin or the like? We're well past the point of feigned ignorance on this topic - like it originally started w.r.t HCQ (not sure where that topic eventually landed but it seems positive AFAIK).
Even if your friend is morbidly obese, not so sure that the increased toxicity from spike proteins is super great for him either...but agreed that he's an outlier from the usual frame of discussion here.
Because there's no where to get it. He's not going to try and literally consume horse paste. Zinc & Vitamin D pills will do okay-ish for preventative maintenance, but most doctors aren't prescribing ivermectin, and many hospitals outright ban it's use on people for Covid.
The rest of us aren't cool like Joe Rogan, and can't get doctors who are too well paid to buy into nonsense.
Even if your friend is morbidly obese, not so sure that the increased toxicity from spike proteins is super great for him either...but agreed that he's an outlier from the usual frame of discussion here.
Well, it made him foggy for a day and disabled his arm for a couple hours, but other than that, no major issues.
That's... not great for a vaccine to do to someone. But compared to what Covid can actually do to him, it's a lesser of two evils.
Not in my experience with the Covid shots, no. Each of the main 3 mRNA shots: Moderna, J&J, and Pfizer have similar side effects, but they can all very a bit, and each person is effected differently. The doctors explicitly warned him that what happened to him could very well happen, and it did. The first shot was worse than the 2nd one.
Normally, they expect you to be light-headed and have nausea for a while. Remember, the idea is that your body is being instructed to produce an intentionally harmful protein for a period of time, to then fight off. I've regularly heard of people complaining about the loss of mobility in their arm. He basically lost all movement in his arm, but he is one of the worse cases I've heard. Mostly it was just soreness, stiffness, and lack of maneuverability for everyone else. Remember, his weight is very likely to be a contributing factor in all of this.
The sum total of my anecdotal experiences is that when you get the shot, your out for a day, or should be just in case.
I'd say 50% have stated there were no issues beyond light-headedness, and the other 50% had issues that would last several hours, or through the day. Mostly fatigue. However, fatigue & immobility of the injected arm is not at all unheard of.
Now... for a normal vaccine, yeah, that's fucking crazy. This isn't a normal vaccine. I can tell you that I've had 12 vaccines at a time in the military and I wasn't as badly effected by them as my friend was by this one.
That was my point elsewhere about pharmacists being extremely cautious about all this. They regularly see people faint after getting the shot. That's why they tell you to just sit down for 15 minutes after injection. That mRNA shit is doing a fucking number on you.
Honestly, that's a bit dumb.
I literally told one of my friends to take it. He weighs 450 lbs and needs a breathing machine to sleep. He basically had to get it to get a real job. If he got Alpha or Delta, his ass was gonna die, simple as. Best case scenario, they would have shoved him on a ventilator, which would have probably blown out his lungs, overwhelmed his respiratory system, and killed him.
I think it was the J&J vaccine he got, so it wasn't even one of the better ones. The likelihood he was going to get Covid was very high because he still likes to socialize and have gatherings with friends whenever he can. We can only hope that when he gets Covid, like all people we know will, his exposure to the vaccine will reduce his symptoms to keep him alive, God willing, maybe even out of the hospital.
I'd prefer to have him get the non-mRNA vaccines, but especially during the Alpha strain, the hospital would have killed him as likely as the virus. So the vaccine isn't probably going to pose any more of a risk than his diet... so fuck it. Hopefully with the Novavax vaccine coming to the states, he can get that and have something closer to proper resistance when he gets infected.
Why not endorse ivermectin or the like? We're well past the point of feigned ignorance on this topic - like it originally started w.r.t HCQ (not sure where that topic eventually landed but it seems positive AFAIK).
Even if your friend is morbidly obese, not so sure that the increased toxicity from spike proteins is super great for him either...but agreed that he's an outlier from the usual frame of discussion here.
Because there's no where to get it. He's not going to try and literally consume horse paste. Zinc & Vitamin D pills will do okay-ish for preventative maintenance, but most doctors aren't prescribing ivermectin, and many hospitals outright ban it's use on people for Covid.
The rest of us aren't cool like Joe Rogan, and can't get doctors who are too well paid to buy into nonsense.
Well, it made him foggy for a day and disabled his arm for a couple hours, but other than that, no major issues.
That's... not great for a vaccine to do to someone. But compared to what Covid can actually do to him, it's a lesser of two evils.
I have much more faith in the paste... Fair enough.
thats pretty odd for the usual vacc, is it not?
Not in my experience with the Covid shots, no. Each of the main 3 mRNA shots: Moderna, J&J, and Pfizer have similar side effects, but they can all very a bit, and each person is effected differently. The doctors explicitly warned him that what happened to him could very well happen, and it did. The first shot was worse than the 2nd one.
Normally, they expect you to be light-headed and have nausea for a while. Remember, the idea is that your body is being instructed to produce an intentionally harmful protein for a period of time, to then fight off. I've regularly heard of people complaining about the loss of mobility in their arm. He basically lost all movement in his arm, but he is one of the worse cases I've heard. Mostly it was just soreness, stiffness, and lack of maneuverability for everyone else. Remember, his weight is very likely to be a contributing factor in all of this.
The sum total of my anecdotal experiences is that when you get the shot, your out for a day, or should be just in case.
I'd say 50% have stated there were no issues beyond light-headedness, and the other 50% had issues that would last several hours, or through the day. Mostly fatigue. However, fatigue & immobility of the injected arm is not at all unheard of.
Now... for a normal vaccine, yeah, that's fucking crazy. This isn't a normal vaccine. I can tell you that I've had 12 vaccines at a time in the military and I wasn't as badly effected by them as my friend was by this one.
That was my point elsewhere about pharmacists being extremely cautious about all this. They regularly see people faint after getting the shot. That's why they tell you to just sit down for 15 minutes after injection. That mRNA shit is doing a fucking number on you.