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Manchin says he ‘cannot vote’ for Democrats’ $2 trillion spending package (archive.md)
posted 4 years ago by FuckGenderPolitics 4 years ago by FuckGenderPolitics +64 / -0
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– FuckGenderPolitics [S] 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I actually don't see that happening. I've never seen defections on both sides on the same vote. It's either Manchin or Sinema standing with all the Republicans or Romney, Collins, or Murkowski standing with all the Democrats.

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– censorthisss 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I hope you're right

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– FuckGenderPolitics [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Interesting info, and the part where both sides defect on near unanimous bills matches what I've seen as well (think the annual defense bill). One thing I notice about the examples you give is that they're not the votes everyone is watching and the media reports on, like signature legislation, Supreme Court nominees, and impeachment votes. I was surprised to find out that 5 House Democrats supported the Clinton impeachment, although most of those were conservative Democrats who later become Republicans.

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– Tourgen 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

It's all theatre. It's all decided well ahead of time. Democracts and Republicans are the same team. They come out of one locker room they just put on different colored jerseys to fool the spectators. The Establishment, The Cult, The Deep State, whatever you call it is, I imagine, well-structured and formalized at that level. I'm sure they hold regular meetings with roll calls and shit.

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