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posted 3 years ago by xAzureAceStarburstx 3 years ago by xAzureAceStarburstx +26 / -2
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– Galean 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

I was very much on the left prior to 2014. What worked for me was the sudden realization that the media was manipulative as fuck. Still I would not have even watched Crowder or Milo because I knew they were racist, alt-right extremists.

Jorden Peterson was the point that I went off to the right, I was listening to this intelligent guy, having intelligent discussions and he was considered an alt-right extremist, white supremacist, transphobe and all the works. That finally pushed me from left to right and made me rethink a lot of what I considered "leftist virtues", made me rethink guns, abortion, transgenderism, gay lifestyles, feminism, the nuclear family etc.

Now, why this worked for me is that the left now is opposite of what I thought the left was. Left back pre-2014 was pro free speech, celebrating culture and patriotism, color-blindness, equal treatment for everyone, respect for the hard working people, anti-corporation, anti-child indoctrination, sticks and stones etc.

Not sure if this helps but it worked for me. There is no thread you can send someone but if you can prove how much the media is full of bullshit, including Reddit and Twitter then maybe, just maybe they will re-evaluate their moral compass.

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– WeedleTLiar 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

For most of my life I've known that politicians and the media were opportunistic liars that shouldn't be trusted with a tube of toothpaste on a plane but the propaganda machine led me to believe that it was mostly coming from the Right (Fox news et al).

Trump really woke me up, not because of anything he did, but because of all the blatant lies the Leftist media was disseminating about him. This was quickly followed by Lindsay Shapard, James Damore, and the Covington Kid which blew their credibility out of the water. By the time they tried to push Jussie Smolett or the "fiery but peaceful" riots, I was in disbelief that anyone would even entertain their bullshit.

JBP was important too, not for any one issue, but because watching him encouraged me to a) question my assumptions and b) speak up when confronted with lies.

I don't know what a specific intro thread would be, but I'd look for something pointing out the hypocracy on the Left regarding their integrity and then go on to educate about the reality of Communism, something we get zero education on in the West (thanks again JBP). After that, take a good critical look at all the self-proclaimed Marxists pushing CRT and BLM; by that point people are either asking hard questions or they are hopeless.

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