I posted this comment: https://files.catbox.moe/8g62zt.png (archive link).
Everything I said is historical facts which are public knowledge and widely agreed upon. I did not break any of the rules, but it got deleted anyways.
If any other country had acted in this way, it would be called colonialism and everybody would be encouraged to criticize it, but apparently the holy protected untouchable country of Israel can do whatever they want, and nobody is allowed to criticize it.
Even many Jews agree with the points in my post:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/05/21/u-s-jews-have-widely-differing-views-on-israel/
But because I am not one of God's Chosen People, I am not allowed to even post simple objective facts.
Does the community think that my comment was acceptable, or does the community agree with the moderator that my comment should not be allowed on this site?
Also, KIA2 does shadow banning: when I am logged in I can see my (deleted) comment, but when I am logged out I cannot. Shadow banning is incredibly evil, and should never be tolerated, especially on a free speech site.
You can prove this with screenshots and a link.
Also, learn to hide your power level a little bit instead of sperging out, or go post with the other fetishists that stole c/ ConsumeProduct.
You can post shit like that without being cringe. Learn how, and clean up your spaghetti in the mean time.
I already posted both in my original comment... the screenshot was clearly taken after the post was deleted, and I also posted a link to the original thread:
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/13zgboK2ki/talmudic-doctrine-nonjews-are-no/c/
I'm not sure what you mean by "hide my power level", I simply answered Jester's question with historical facts. Is that not allowed on this site?
This is not a free speech site. What 'free speech' site has the rules that this community does?
This isn't a pro-Jew site either, despite some users' affiliations; we voluntarily visit for certain content like the CCP Flu news.
As for how the site behaves, that's likely a larger topic for WIN in general. I highly doubt it's KIA2 specific.
only reddit admins can shadowban. You aren't shadowbanned, everything is completely visible to everyone. The post just got deleted.
Contrailiy... shadowbanning does exist on win. its happened on certain comments, i believe the pwin mods can do so.
afaik thats what happens on reddit too. when your comment is deleted its still on your profile and you can link to it.... but idr if its the same for shadowbinned comments.
Why? Please tell me this is hyperbole. Also if he said "comment removed" and you can make this post it's not shadow banning.
The purpose of shadow banning is to make people think that they are not banned, even though they are banned. By its nature it is deceptive.
This leads to a situation where everybody is censored, but nobody realizes that they are being censored. Because people do not realize they are being censored, they do not fight back against the censorship.
And nobody even knows exactly what is being censored, it is up to the whim of the admins. It concentrates all of the power into the admins, now a single admin can control what millions of people see (and don't see), without anybody even realizing it's happening. It is extremely insidious.
Transparency and honesty are incredibly important, you cannot have a society without those two principles. People need to understand what is happening, and why it is happening. Shadow banning is the complete opposite of that.
I noticed it because I went back to the post and refreshed it, it's also how I noticed the shadow banning on YouTube (where comments are silently removed without anybody noticing).
I agree that this is a mild form of shadow banning (compared to other much worse sites), but it is still shadow banning.
This isn't what a shadowban is. You got a notification when your comment was removed, so there's no shadow, and we can see all your other posts, so there's no ban.
Shadowbanning is when you flag an account so that any posts or comments made from it only shows up for that same account and nobody else, the comments aren't even replaced with a [removed], they're just invisible to everyone else. It's useful against spammers, but like every other useful thing ever it's widely abused.
I agree that users being able to see their own removed posts like they were still there is kinda stupid - it's useful if you wrote a long post and got it removed due to a single word based on some dumb rule, so then you can copypaste it, change the offending part, and repost it. But it should be clearly indicated that the post is removed. Our janny works around it by replying with a mod comment, though, and it's something .win devs need to fix, jannies can't do much about it.
fyi, shadowing comments DOES exist on win, but i dont know if the full account is in effect.
That's fair, I agree it is something that needs to be fixed in
.win, since it doesn't seem to be specific to KiA2.Because it was made to be used only on spammers, and they increased the mission creep til it was used on 'bad people' and now its used on people who arent subscribed to the sub, its malevolent and undermines speech in an insidious way.
comments can get shadowbanned on win.