Yeah I thought the guy from Protonmail had a good point. If they don’t comply with the law, they get shut down. They can only do their best under the circumstances.
Gab has decided to ignore demands from the German government they believe conflict with US law and are unreasonably censorious and probably will get the service banned in Germany.
Protonmail is a Swiss company and isn't obligated to comply with US law. Everyone and every company makes their choice.
The FBI don't serve their demands to Protonmail directly, they make a request through the Swiss authorities who make the demand on their behalf, representing the swiss government. It's the joy of globalism.
Right, but Gab would not ignore having to comply with US law, which is what happened to Protonmail. They were complying with a request from Swiss authorities, which there is no reasonable way to ignore.
My point being that you do not ignore the laws of the country you are based in and continue operating. It just doesn't happen. The only way to avoid it is to flee to a country with less strict laws.
Will they immediately comply, or will they lawyer up and fight it? Is there an actual warrant, and how does that even work for 200,000 accounts?
I got caught up in the Voltage copyright cases 10 years ago. Voltage, a copyright exploiter, went after my ISP for contact info on a bunch of IP addresses. The big duopoly in my area rolled over immediately and gave them the info.
My small ISP took things to court, pointed out that Voltage had done this before and never actually brought suit; they just send letters telling people to pay with the threat of a suit. Judge disagreed and ordered the info released. To this day they haven't filed suit against anyone.
The point is, I'm still with said ISP. You can't win them all, but you can fight them all. If Protonmail gives in right away without a fight, I'll drop them immediately.
It does bring home the larger point, which is, don't trust any online platform with your data. People need to learn how to encrypt their own files offline.
Yeah I thought the guy from Protonmail had a good point. If they don’t comply with the law, they get shut down. They can only do their best under the circumstances.
Gab has decided to ignore demands from the German government they believe conflict with US law and are unreasonably censorious and probably will get the service banned in Germany.
Protonmail is a Swiss company and isn't obligated to comply with US law. Everyone and every company makes their choice.
The FBI don't serve their demands to Protonmail directly, they make a request through the Swiss authorities who make the demand on their behalf, representing the swiss government. It's the joy of globalism.
This is what Interpol is (being used) "for", ja?
Right, but Gab would not ignore having to comply with US law, which is what happened to Protonmail. They were complying with a request from Swiss authorities, which there is no reasonable way to ignore.
My point being that you do not ignore the laws of the country you are based in and continue operating. It just doesn't happen. The only way to avoid it is to flee to a country with less strict laws.
That's the big question.
Will they immediately comply, or will they lawyer up and fight it? Is there an actual warrant, and how does that even work for 200,000 accounts?
I got caught up in the Voltage copyright cases 10 years ago. Voltage, a copyright exploiter, went after my ISP for contact info on a bunch of IP addresses. The big duopoly in my area rolled over immediately and gave them the info.
My small ISP took things to court, pointed out that Voltage had done this before and never actually brought suit; they just send letters telling people to pay with the threat of a suit. Judge disagreed and ordered the info released. To this day they haven't filed suit against anyone.
The point is, I'm still with said ISP. You can't win them all, but you can fight them all. If Protonmail gives in right away without a fight, I'll drop them immediately.
It does bring home the larger point, which is, don't trust any online platform with your data. People need to learn how to encrypt their own files offline.