Look, I get it. I can be pretty extreme, and pretty inflammatory, on some issues, at times. Which is odd, really, when you consider that I'm probably fairly close to a political "moderate", as compared to some of you.
I care far too much about certain things. Perhaps I value individual freedom more than you do. Fine. Perhaps I have less to lose than you do. Fine. Perhaps I trust the government less than you, and trust the cops, and courts, less than you do. Also fine.
But, with all that in mind, I must say that I'm finding some of the comments and posts, from some of you here, in recent days and the last couple of weeks, really do come across like some sort of... Controlled demoralisation, or something.
"Obey the law, bruh". "Think of your family, bruh". "Your job is more important than your freedom!". "They mean well!". "The pendulum always swings. It'll all be ok in the long term!". "Think of the collective good, dude!" "At least you're safe!" "You don't want a criminal record, bruh!"
I see all of this shit, and more, all over posts on this "community", now. And I really never thought I would see that, from here. Just the... Sheer amount of fear porn, and of "We should obey the government" is really quite... Disconcerting. And some of it is even coming from those of you who I normally find myself agreeing with, at least partly...
So here's my request: this isn't Reddit. Stop being so damn afraid of your respective governments. Stop being afraid to step on official toes, and to work outside the fucking law, in particular the emergency powers that these megalomaniacs have given themselves. Stop telling others to be afraid, or "You really don't wanna do that, bro". Sure, call out violence. Do not do that shit. But telling people to comply, and to just... Suck it up, and play along? You're better than that, or at least, you should be.
Sure, we need to be smart about this, and disobey in ways that are effective, and necessary. But to think the law will protect you, or that you should just play along, to keep the status quo, because you "value your job" so much? Well, I'm sorry, but that just ain't gonna cut it for some of us, anymore.
No one ever said it doesn't work. But it should always be a last resort. Period.
What we're experiencing now is still very much first-world oppression compared to what true oppression is. When it reaches that point, then I wouldn't disagree at all.
We're on the rails now. We know how this ends.
There's nothing more frustrating than being told by someone who knows where we're headed that we all have a moral obligation to let the train reach the station before we take it over and put it in reverse.
If you think there's nothing else you can do besides violence, then you're doing nothing more than simply making excuses to use violence.
There's plenty you can do to fight back. It does have an affect, even if you don't notice it immediately.
The evidence of that is that they had to steal an election because momentum against them had become so massive. 13 million more votes than 2016 is not some small amount.
Participating within the system to expose their corruption or to outright stop it is something anyone can do.
You seem to think it's a very binary choice. Either a person gets violent and goes wild trying to fight back, or they do absolutely nothing — it's not.
It might come as a surprise many, but this isn't 1945. Battles like what are taking place right now are battles of optics. Especially when the opposition controls every single consumer institution in the western world. Period.
They can and will make you and everyone else look like the actual bad guys and they will succeed. January 6th is the perfect example of this.
What happened on January 6th? Not much really. Some justifiably angry people went into the Capitol building, broke a few things, and stood around. A few police officers were supposedly assaulted by questionable people, while there were others who saved them from those people. A completely unarmed woman was murdered by a trigger happy cop who was looking for a reason to kill someone, and people just sort of left after.
Ignore the fact that Police literally ushered them in. We can also ignore that we know Antifa retards and even journalists from places like CNN helped instigate and try to set off the events.
Overall, it really was a big nothing burger compared to the 6+ months of nightly violence where cities burned, countless thousands were injured, billions in damage, etc. The one unifying overall result in the aftermath was what? The people you oppose actually celebrating and foaming at the mouth that they had gotten exactly what they wanted.
That said, how was it portrayed then and how has it been portrayed since?
As if it was the most horrifying event in American history. So much so, that they juxtapose it to 9/11 and still mention it at every opportunity 9+ months later.
Whether you, or anyone else for that matter, like it or not, we live in a time where "wars" are fought not with violence, but with information and optics. It's the reason that they're so vehemently adamant on internet censorship, hiding behind the guise of "stopping misinformation" or stating that it's a "threat to democracy."
They know and fear the gathering momentum against them because it has been working.
There's a very real reason that glowies and shills have been caught countless times trying to incite people into committing acts of violence. Attempting to provoke and antagonize, or inculcate fear and desperation into the communities where they infiltrate. Because they very much know that it serves their goals. They can take it, pull any and all context, plaster it on every single consumable piece of media in the entire world, and craft their "these are violent extremists" narrative for the average normie to sit there and eat up.
What happened with Governor Whitmer last year?
Some actual anarchists were plotting some weird attack on her. People who made it explicitly clear in videos that they hated conservatives, Trump, Democrats, the entire system. These were their own words — their manifestos, if you will.
How was it portrayed by not only the media, but the glowies themselves?
"These are violent right-wing Trump supporters."
Our own Federal police institutions are just as corrupt. Which is why they labeled people over a garage rope. It's why they investigated a truck who was rightfully in his lane, instead of the van who tried running him off the road because he got upset that someone took his spot.
All of these events are portrayed as "violent right-wingers."
But why has support for their opposition continued to grow since then?
Because people are doing the work. They're spreading the truth and using information to wage war against the lies of the establishment. It is working.
We didn't just get into this mess over night. This has taken literally decades of building up to get here. If you think it's simply going to solve itself within a year or two and poof, everything goes back to normal, then you're sadly mistaken.
We have all the tools we need. What we need is people to be much more proactive in using them and spreading information. Because in this war, information is your weapon — until the time comes that they try to disarm you.
Anyway, I type really fast so any sort of rant can get out of hand. My bad, man.
I hope you enjoy your day and are doing well.
I don't think you understand force very well.
Every piece of legislation, administrative ruling, and OSHA overreach is backed up with the threat of deadly force. The named penalties may be minor - a fine here, a citation there, a revocation - but each of those penalties carries the unstated threat: "and if that doesn't stop you, or you ignore it, we will come with overwhelming force and end you."
Peaceful protest only works because it too is a credible threat of deadly force. It is a statement, the same statement every time: "Look at how many of us there are. There are enough to overrun your security, break down your doors - your walls, if we have to - and rip you to pieces with our bare hands, because that is all we have brought today. Do not make us come back tomorrow, or the next."
Your rant is pretty disjointed, so I'm not going to try to respond point-by-point.
Literally none of that is an argument whatsoever. It's just stating the plainly obvious as if it makes anything you said more meaningful.
You will always exist within some form of government. This is not an option. Unless you plan on going out and finding some completely uninhabited wilderness, which, there's absolutely zero stopping you from doing that now.
Rules and laws exists in literally every society throughout all of history. If you think you'll escape it somehow, then I hate to break it to ya, but it's not happening.
Go ahead and show me where I said we should just "ride it out until the end" — you won't be able to. You can say you haven't given up, but that statement alone already demonstrates that you believe it's a forgone conclusion, so don't even bother.
You can pretend it's "disjointed" because you don't have any meaningful way to respond. Pretend that you've been "fighting back" by sitting on your ass and screaming on the internet. It'll totally do the trick. You'll fit in with all the other depressed nihilists who can't be bothered to get off the internet and actually do some of the countless things available to push back against them.
Mandatory vaccinations are almost certainly coming to Australia, and NSW is planning to forcibly isolate single people, who live alone, and who test positive, in hotels, "for their own good". Not travellers. Locals. Because they can.
So I'm not so sure about that, anymore, where I am. I think we've moved beyond that into "oppressive near-fascist state" territory... :-(
If I seem extreme to some people, it's because THE SITUATION IN AUSTRALIA IS WORSE THAN YOU REALISE.
Just... Bear that in mind, folks. "First world problems" my arse...
I'm more than aware of the problems in Australia because I follow it closely since I have family in Victoria.
On a meta-level, it's definitely shit and the most authoritarian place out of all the others by a pretty vast margin presently, but ultimately, what we're still seeing is oppression-lite. I'm not saying that to be inflammatory or uncaring of the plight of the people, but true oppression is a much darker and tyrannical force. It's most assuredly still oppression in every conceivable sense, but compared to where they can take it, and what they can do, we're still very much in the beginning stages.
Right now, it's like they're trying to force people over that edge so that they're the ones who initiate violence, so that they have an excuse to go to that very dark place, where people are literally tossed away in camps, abused, subjected to torture, and ultimately disposed of. Now, that may be a a pretty hyperbolic way of envisioning where they're heading, but it's probably not far from the truth of what they're trying to accomplish.
The crazy thing is that they're so lost in the ideological obsession, and so convinced that what they're doing is righteous, that even this very conversation that all the people here are participating in would be labeled as "conspiracy" — even though it's a reflection of the very present reality that they seem completely unable to see.
Last, as in "first, but also last"? Or last in the sense of waiting until there's absolutely nothing left worth saving?
In Earl Turners diary, that accelerated oppression is what ultimately turned the people against their oppressors, as it began to affect their daily lives. When your enemies control the media, it's going to take the personal experience to begin to raise counter-narrative questions.
But wait, I'm not one of the terrorists. Why am I being oppressed too?
Crab bucket, yep. The puppetized masses with their strings available for harvest.