Look, I get it. I can be pretty extreme, and pretty inflammatory, on some issues, at times. Which is odd, really, when you consider that I'm probably fairly close to a political "moderate", as compared to some of you.
I care far too much about certain things. Perhaps I value individual freedom more than you do. Fine. Perhaps I have less to lose than you do. Fine. Perhaps I trust the government less than you, and trust the cops, and courts, less than you do. Also fine.
But, with all that in mind, I must say that I'm finding some of the comments and posts, from some of you here, in recent days and the last couple of weeks, really do come across like some sort of... Controlled demoralisation, or something.
"Obey the law, bruh". "Think of your family, bruh". "Your job is more important than your freedom!". "They mean well!". "The pendulum always swings. It'll all be ok in the long term!". "Think of the collective good, dude!" "At least you're safe!" "You don't want a criminal record, bruh!"
I see all of this shit, and more, all over posts on this "community", now. And I really never thought I would see that, from here. Just the... Sheer amount of fear porn, and of "We should obey the government" is really quite... Disconcerting. And some of it is even coming from those of you who I normally find myself agreeing with, at least partly...
So here's my request: this isn't Reddit. Stop being so damn afraid of your respective governments. Stop being afraid to step on official toes, and to work outside the fucking law, in particular the emergency powers that these megalomaniacs have given themselves. Stop telling others to be afraid, or "You really don't wanna do that, bro". Sure, call out violence. Do not do that shit. But telling people to comply, and to just... Suck it up, and play along? You're better than that, or at least, you should be.
Sure, we need to be smart about this, and disobey in ways that are effective, and necessary. But to think the law will protect you, or that you should just play along, to keep the status quo, because you "value your job" so much? Well, I'm sorry, but that just ain't gonna cut it for some of us, anymore.
Some people have been around much longer than others, so lately I've been taking a moment to check how long people have been here.
Honestly, I don't really care what people think, I'm just going to do what I feel is right.
That said, ever since "NoNewNormal" got banned, and many of the people here post on that .win, and have been linking posts to here, we've had an influx of newfags who are definitely sketchy as hell.
The ones that are more obvious are many of the ones you've stated, or the ones telling people it's all over and to just give up and wait. Yeah, I can think of quite a few who would really like that. Even the ones who scream that people should go out and tear things down glow like the sun in my opinion. Anyone who openly advocates violence is either someone with an agenda, a sociopath, or a person who has never seen or participated in actual violence in their whole life and mistakes TV/Film/Games with reality
As for disobedience, shit yeah you should do it. But I don't recommend doing anything that can catch you a felony — unless you're looking to lose your guns, which I'm not. Those are far more important in the current climate.
Either way, I wouldn't sweat it too much. There are several different groups with a lot of money who pay people to go into these types of communities. There are even retarded activist losers who literally go around doing it for free because they have absolutely no lives and think they're some sort of big gay sneaky internet ninja. They're bound to show up and shill. It's just part of how things work these days.
Here's the thing, though. People should stop letting other people influence any of their decisions. Who gives a shit if someone disagrees with you? Are your (not you specifically, just people in general) principles and beliefs so fragile that you can cede them just to feel like you "fit in"? It's totally fine to disagree with people, even those in communities you hangout in. It doesn't make them right and you wrong, or vice versa.
Just be yourself. You know what's best for you. You can consider advice from others, but do it from a lens of how it serves your goals overall, and don't do it just because you see others hyping it. Basically: be an individual and not some mindless ideologue NPC.
Violence works. it solves problems. We outnumber our oppressors, heavily. Suicides are way up with the covid bullshit, and if a fraction of those people had chosen a different -cide, our oppressors might have been afraid to move so quickly.
But, instead, they sleep soundly at night and we're here huddled in a corner telling each other not to do anything. I fucking hate it.
No one ever said it doesn't work. But it should always be a last resort. Period.
What we're experiencing now is still very much first-world oppression compared to what true oppression is. When it reaches that point, then I wouldn't disagree at all.
We're on the rails now. We know how this ends.
There's nothing more frustrating than being told by someone who knows where we're headed that we all have a moral obligation to let the train reach the station before we take it over and put it in reverse.
If you think there's nothing else you can do besides violence, then you're doing nothing more than simply making excuses to use violence.
There's plenty you can do to fight back. It does have an affect, even if you don't notice it immediately.
The evidence of that is that they had to steal an election because momentum against them had become so massive. 13 million more votes than 2016 is not some small amount.
Participating within the system to expose their corruption or to outright stop it is something anyone can do.
You seem to think it's a very binary choice. Either a person gets violent and goes wild trying to fight back, or they do absolutely nothing — it's not.
It might come as a surprise many, but this isn't 1945. Battles like what are taking place right now are battles of optics. Especially when the opposition controls every single consumer institution in the western world. Period.
They can and will make you and everyone else look like the actual bad guys and they will succeed. January 6th is the perfect example of this.
What happened on January 6th? Not much really. Some justifiably angry people went into the Capitol building, broke a few things, and stood around. A few police officers were supposedly assaulted by questionable people, while there were others who saved them from those people. A completely unarmed woman was murdered by a trigger happy cop who was looking for a reason to kill someone, and people just sort of left after.
Ignore the fact that Police literally ushered them in. We can also ignore that we know Antifa retards and even journalists from places like CNN helped instigate and try to set off the events.
Overall, it really was a big nothing burger compared to the 6+ months of nightly violence where cities burned, countless thousands were injured, billions in damage, etc. The one unifying overall result in the aftermath was what? The people you oppose actually celebrating and foaming at the mouth that they had gotten exactly what they wanted.
That said, how was it portrayed then and how has it been portrayed since?
As if it was the most horrifying event in American history. So much so, that they juxtapose it to 9/11 and still mention it at every opportunity 9+ months later.
Whether you, or anyone else for that matter, like it or not, we live in a time where "wars" are fought not with violence, but with information and optics. It's the reason that they're so vehemently adamant on internet censorship, hiding behind the guise of "stopping misinformation" or stating that it's a "threat to democracy."
They know and fear the gathering momentum against them because it has been working.
There's a very real reason that glowies and shills have been caught countless times trying to incite people into committing acts of violence. Attempting to provoke and antagonize, or inculcate fear and desperation into the communities where they infiltrate. Because they very much know that it serves their goals. They can take it, pull any and all context, plaster it on every single consumable piece of media in the entire world, and craft their "these are violent extremists" narrative for the average normie to sit there and eat up.
What happened with Governor Whitmer last year?
Some actual anarchists were plotting some weird attack on her. People who made it explicitly clear in videos that they hated conservatives, Trump, Democrats, the entire system. These were their own words — their manifestos, if you will.
How was it portrayed by not only the media, but the glowies themselves?
"These are violent right-wing Trump supporters."
Our own Federal police institutions are just as corrupt. Which is why they labeled people over a garage rope. It's why they investigated a truck who was rightfully in his lane, instead of the van who tried running him off the road because he got upset that someone took his spot.
All of these events are portrayed as "violent right-wingers."
But why has support for their opposition continued to grow since then?
Because people are doing the work. They're spreading the truth and using information to wage war against the lies of the establishment. It is working.
We didn't just get into this mess over night. This has taken literally decades of building up to get here. If you think it's simply going to solve itself within a year or two and poof, everything goes back to normal, then you're sadly mistaken.
We have all the tools we need. What we need is people to be much more proactive in using them and spreading information. Because in this war, information is your weapon — until the time comes that they try to disarm you.
Anyway, I type really fast so any sort of rant can get out of hand. My bad, man.
I hope you enjoy your day and are doing well.
Mandatory vaccinations are almost certainly coming to Australia, and NSW is planning to forcibly isolate single people, who live alone, and who test positive, in hotels, "for their own good". Not travellers. Locals. Because they can.
So I'm not so sure about that, anymore, where I am. I think we've moved beyond that into "oppressive near-fascist state" territory... :-(
If I seem extreme to some people, it's because THE SITUATION IN AUSTRALIA IS WORSE THAN YOU REALISE.
Just... Bear that in mind, folks. "First world problems" my arse...
I'm more than aware of the problems in Australia because I follow it closely since I have family in Victoria.
On a meta-level, it's definitely shit and the most authoritarian place out of all the others by a pretty vast margin presently, but ultimately, what we're still seeing is oppression-lite. I'm not saying that to be inflammatory or uncaring of the plight of the people, but true oppression is a much darker and tyrannical force. It's most assuredly still oppression in every conceivable sense, but compared to where they can take it, and what they can do, we're still very much in the beginning stages.
Right now, it's like they're trying to force people over that edge so that they're the ones who initiate violence, so that they have an excuse to go to that very dark place, where people are literally tossed away in camps, abused, subjected to torture, and ultimately disposed of. Now, that may be a a pretty hyperbolic way of envisioning where they're heading, but it's probably not far from the truth of what they're trying to accomplish.
The crazy thing is that they're so lost in the ideological obsession, and so convinced that what they're doing is righteous, that even this very conversation that all the people here are participating in would be labeled as "conspiracy" — even though it's a reflection of the very present reality that they seem completely unable to see.
Last, as in "first, but also last"? Or last in the sense of waiting until there's absolutely nothing left worth saving?
This is a good take, cheers.
Yeah, honestly, a lot of it is just entertaining, at this point...
I'm waiting for the screaming to start, on this one. And it will, I'm sure.
As you say, NNN came here (partly), and I'm 100% sure some of the trolls who helped destroy it followed, too...
Just look at LockdownSkepticism, and how cucked and fearful that place is now (pretty sure they literally blocked me, for attempting to post that vid from hotel quarantine I shared here the other day). If any of the folks from there followed over here, as well..? I can just imagine how that might affect the quality of discussion...
Fuck Reddit, man. Even if I discovered this place through it, originally. Seriously, there's so much we can "thank" that place for, this included. Even now we're off it...
Speaking of illegal shit, if Anonymous or whatever ever decides to DDOS Reddit or something? Man, I'll be cheering that shit on. Not that' it'll work, of course, but anything that denies Reddit traffic? Has to be a good thing, IMHO.
It happens everywhere. There are a subset group of people who are absolutely addicted to conflict and seeking attention; they can't help themselves. They typically don't go out much and they're willing to take any interaction the can get, or use it as a type of therapy to vent their miserable life and crippling depression. You'll see them pop-up in every community that doesn't follow the dogma prescribed by the mainstream consumerism cult. The very idea that there are people who don't agree with them is something they can't fathom or tolerate.
Reddit is trash. The only board I ever used there was KiA, because at the time it was where the relevant conversations with regard to the corruption in gaming/entertainment were taking place, and the moment this place popped up I gladly abandoned that shithole. You'll be better off without them.
Anons barely exist anymore. Occupy Wall Street brought in a huge amount of normies and the place really hasn't been the same since. Before then, they'd get the random small mainstream attention for doing something, but nothing that screwed the boards up more than that.
Who knows, maybe one day people will inherit the spirit and remember not to take shit so seriously and that it's ok to just do shit for lulz. But my hopes aren't high.