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posted 4 years ago by DarthXenon66 4 years ago by DarthXenon66 +75 / -0
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– throwawayaccount2037 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

less than 1% of all adverse reactions to vaccines are actually submitted to the VAERS.

Yup, we got a small glimpse of the scale of SAEs from the Facebook groups, the largest of which was 120,000 people from December, 2020 to April, 2021 before it got nuked by Facebook.

I haven't bothered to check, but I'm curious what the vaccination rate was by April, 2021? Because that would give us a small, partial glimpse of the SAE rate at the time.

People who get vaccinated are shown to have the same viral loads (sometimes more) as people who are unvaccinated. Currently, those who are vaccinated are experiencing much worse symptoms from the Delta variant than those who are not.

Yep, it's because natural immunity builds up antibodies differently (and more securely) than the vaccines. That's why most of the variant cases are from people who have been vaccinated. In fact, they are at higher risk of replication and more serious ailments in the future. There was a study done about it here: https://www.cure-hub.com/post/sars-cov-2-vaccines-breakthrough-infections-and-lasting-natural-immunity

I imagine we'll be hearing about a lot of serious COVID illnesses during the fall/winter season from vaccinated individuals as people's immune systems fail to prevent contracting more serious variants, or leaving them susceptible to mortality-inducing illnesses such as pneumonia.

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– Happily_Grim 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

At the time, VAERS data released showed adverse events following vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and around 60,000 injured/maimed between December 2020 and March 26, 2021.
That's the last time I checked that I had documented. So, close enough to April.
In addition, in Brazil official media reports state that during a 5-month period, over 32,000 people in Brazil have died following receiving the injection. Although specifics are harder to come by. One thing that's certain, is that they were vaccinated with two doses, and still ended up passing away.
Which makes you wonder; are they over-reporting, or are we under-reporting? Especially when you take into consideration that they have a population of 214 million, compared to the US's 330 million.
I think it's safe to say we know the answer.

 

Exactly. Great information added — thank you for that. Neither of us even mentioned the risk for myocarditis either, which is another big problem. Especially since it's adversely affecting youth.
 
Another thing not being mentioned is concern about this type of vaccine, and previous attempts in creating one as well. There have been many attempts to make vaccines in the past that ended in complete failure, which is why we've never had a corona virus vaccine before.
In the 60’s, scientists tried to make a vaccine for infants. They completely skipped animal studies and went straight to human testing — because it wasn't necessary at the time.
In the end, the vaccinated infants got much sicker than the unvaccinated infants when exposed to the virus in nature, with 80% of the vaccinated infants requiring hospitalization; two of them ended up dying. Since then, scientists have made many attempts to create coronavirus vaccines. All of them ended in failure, and although they used animals this time, the animals in the trials got very sick and many died, just like the infants in the 60’s.

 

None of this is anecdotal either. This is very real science and history. So it's annoying as shit when dumb drooler kids, absorbed in consumerism like the one in OP's picture, or even those replying, all pretend that "lol dats because dey stupid and uneducated! Duh TV told me so! Dey don't trust science!"

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– BidenLikesMiners 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Brazil likely includes all causes, and does not differentiate post vax.

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– Happily_Grim 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Its entirely possible. The language barrier makes it pretty difficult to follow the news out of certain places. Either way, it still doesn't change the studies that we can follow either.

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