One of the biggest pitfalls of common discourse is allowing people who want you dead to define the argument. Thomas Sowell became prominent because he did not let the trappings of political arguments be the only possible answers. Stop using the term white, I’m Slavic, Germanic, and Nordic. This means me and people from the Mediterranean have fuck all in common but we are still classified the same. As an American I have nothing in common with Germans, yet I am classified in the same group. Playing by these stupid identity games only gives these quibbling retards validation. Want to discriminate legitimately? Use their culture. We already know that ghetto black culture is shit, we already know that central and South American culture is shit, we already know that Northwestern American culture is shit. The practices a culture implements shows over generations, black American who eat vegetables and don’t down hundreds of grams of sugar a day magically live past 65. Asian families have been growing taller in America thanks to access to real food. A culture defines your genetics tomorrow.
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The Germans needed to invade Poland in part because the Poles where terrorizing and murdering ethnic Germans living in Poland.
The Soviets were the ones who genocided the Poles. They murdered about 20,000 POWs, intellectuals, and religious leaders.
Literally one of the first things Supreme Reader did was shove documented evidence up your ass.
You probably think that eating bagels is shilling for Israel.
The National Socialists invaded Poland because they wanted to extract as much wealth from races they deemed inferior to them. Poland had Slavs and Jews, both of which the National Socialists wanted to exterminate. There was no [Polish terror campaign against Germans] in Poland until the Leftists showed up invading from the East and the West and started gunning people down.
There was Ukrainian nationalist and Communist terrorism in Poland before the war. Both of these were being countered somewhat heavy handed, like the Bereza political prison camp where people were beaten and abused and the Polish cavalry burning Ukr villages and churches in reprisals (just burning, not massacring). But nothing involving Germans, at least not since 1923 when the Silesian uprisings (of local Poles against Germany, fighting the Freikorps and the German socialist government) ended.
Okay okay! I'll be more nuanced!
If you want a horror story, go check out what the Ukrainian nationalists then did in 1943. Actually lost distant family members during these events, and I mean entire families with entire villages.
See also https://www.jstor.org/stable/40868197
As it mentions other minorities being oppressed (but with no violence because they did not engage in terorrism) were Belarusians and Jews. The former being Polonized and the others marginalized, while at the same time Zionists were being sponsored as to make the Jewish problem go away via emigration - and this actually involved Polish secret services covertly training the right-wing Jewish Zionist terrorists for a planned uprising in Palestine. Not much of this came to a fruit as most of them then died in the war but one who survived was Begin who was then allowed to desert when the 2nd Corps passed by when going from the Soviet camps and prisons to the Africa/Italy theater of war. He later became an Israeli president and a Peace Nobel laureate.
The entire story of the 2nd Corps is fascinating, you might check it out. It's leader General Anders being "the Polish Moses".
Hmmmm. Interesting.
A Jewish article no less: https://www.thejc.com/lifestyle/features/in-the-steps-of-the-polish-moses-1.64019
Also they then forced my father to help them in shelling Leningrad (St. Petersburg). Where millions died.
Huh? The Soviets in WWII? Generally better equipped than the Germans, even if less tacticool (but often also even more fancy shit, with the Lend Lease gear and stuff like the Harley bikes). Especially in winter conditions.
Also, always way more mechanized (Germans always relying on horses). And better transport too (American trucks and trains).
No, we weren't.
My own family was German, and was only terrorized when the Germans drafted my grandfather and his brother. On the threat of sending them to the concentration camps if they refused, along with additional reprisal towards their family left behind.
Also ou can try and give me name of one (1) ethnic German "terrorized and killed" in the months or years before the war. Which you can't, because nothing like that was happening. It's possible you might be confusing the Sudetenland provocations in Czechoslovakia with Poland now (where there was only an Ukrainian insurgency, plus Communist troubles).
That's anecdotal. Also, there's nothing wrong with the Germans drafting your grandfather and his brother. They needed every man they could get and they were German. They shouldn't have needed to threaten them.
This right here is why you will always be a race traitor.
You think it's legitimate for National Socialists, claiming to support Germans, by invading the country the ethnic Germans are living in, blowing up their homes and community, then forcibly conscripting them.
You pretend that you would protect "your people", but you have no interested in protecting anyone in your ethnic group who doesn't comply. You would line whites up in the street to be machine gunned to death for refusing to comply with your ideology. You would never act to benefit them.
You clearly don't understand the geopolitics of the time. Germany was facing collapse due to WWI reparations and boycotts by the jooz. They needed lebensraum while they was still strong. They had to go East to get to the oil fields in the soviet union. They had to invade Poland. The soviets invaded Poland at the same time. Why don't you kvetch about them invading?
I do agree that the Germans should have treated the slavs better. If they didn't consider them untermenschen they could have had more allies
Turns out my family wasn't eager to betray their country at war.
Distant relatives also sheltered a Gypsy girl.
You said they were German though. Poland wasn't their country, neither was Russia. They shouldn't have had a problem fighting against them.
It sounds like you believe the official narrative for WW2. The winners write the history books and they lied about the Germans. You should do some research if you care about the truth.