Far more likely that the number of genuine gays and straights declare that they are straight after 30 years is probably under half.
I'm open to the idea that the number of declared gays followed the same trend as the number of declared non-hetro teens; that it's totally a fad... But that would still mean that conversion therapy works. Something that works 90% of the time (when done pavlov style), is still more effective than something not done at all.
But that would still mean that conversion therapy works.
I don't think so. You're talking about basically grooming people into sexualities that aren't their own, which is going to make them develop pathologies, and then calling it 'working'.
Uh no, we're operating under the premises that the 9 of the 10 kids that call themselves "gay" (or non-straight) are just idiots who got peer-pressured into it. Assuming that is true, the labrat option suddenly makes sense.
There is not a chance that information is correct. Literally, not a chance.
Far more likely that the number of genuine gays and straights declare that they are straight after 30 years is probably under half.
Then show me your evidence.
I'm open to the idea that the number of declared gays followed the same trend as the number of declared non-hetro teens; that it's totally a fad... But that would still mean that conversion therapy works. Something that works 90% of the time (when done pavlov style), is still more effective than something not done at all.
I don't think so. You're talking about basically grooming people into sexualities that aren't their own, which is going to make them develop pathologies, and then calling it 'working'.
Uh no, we're operating under the premises that the 9 of the 10 kids that call themselves "gay" (or non-straight) are just idiots who got peer-pressured into it. Assuming that is true, the labrat option suddenly makes sense.
Well, Guy_Incognito76 didn't show me the evidence last week. Maybe you will.