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NPR Rewriting History Of Tulsa Race Riot (archive.is)
posted 4 years ago by Ahaus667 4 years ago by Ahaus667 +78 / -0
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– Gizortnik 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

While I doubt you have such figures, the problem with lynching is that it was applied to people who had allegedly done allegedly heinous crimes.

As was the case here, a man facing no charge was being called a rapist and the lynch mob was demanding his immediate execution with no trial.

In many other cases people who were convicted were unable to be sentenced before the lynch mob demanded they be turned over by the police.

In one case that Mark Twain identified, a black man was scheduled to be executed for a murder, but it was stayed a day for appeal. The crowd that had gathered for the hanging decided that he should be hung regardless of the judges order, attacked the police station where he was held, and 5 of them got shot to death for their troubles.

In another case, you had retards being lynched and set on fire for crimes they had allegedly done, despite the fact that they were not mentally fit to stand trial, and despite the fact that they would have no attorneys to defend them.

I'd say an objective history would say that lynch mobs aren't a community coming together to finish off someone they knew was bad. It was a massive virtue signal in a particularly violent society that enjoyed watching people die because it made them feel virtuous to do bad things to bad people... regardless of whether those people were bad, or could be proven bad, or whether or not the legal system was functioning normally.

There's a reason I call Cancel Culture, Lyncherdom. It's the same thing. Has anyone ever been cancelled erroneously or illegitimately? Of course. Does anyone actually give a shit about what happened? Fuck no. Are the people engaging in the canceling guilty of the shit they are raging about? Absolutely. Does everybody who involves themselves in it think they're doing it because they are good people? Unquestionably. Are they actually a bunch of savages that deserve worse than what they are doing to their target because of their self-righteous maliciousness? Without a doubt.

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– fauxgnaws 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

No doubt mob lynching isn't the fairest system of justice, but it doesn't appear to be racially biased - at least not at the time, in Tulsa.

Mark Twain isn't a good person to get your information from. For much of his life he was ambivalent toward or even approving of slavery, then when he changed his mind he used his wit and rhetoric to vilify slaveowners, even those who were financially stuck in a system they disapproved of.

The statues the violent mobs tore down in Virginia, all but one wrote how they were against slavery, but they didn't care because all southerners were just evil nazis to the mob. End of life Twain would be right there cheering them on, happily spreading lies about Charlottesville and everything else Woke.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

at least not at the time, in Tulsa.

I see literally no evidence of that.

While it is possible for lynching not to be racially based, to say that wasn't the case in Tulsa is just false when the media intentionally hyperbolized and racialized a non-event.

For much of his life he was ambivalent toward or even approving of slavery, then when he changed his mind he used his wit and rhetoric to vilify slaveowners, even those who were financially stuck in a system they disapproved of.

He sounds like someone who grew up in the antebellum south and eventually despised slavery.

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– fauxgnaws 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I see literally no evidence of that.

Go look up the numbers and demographics I talked about, if you want to see evidence yourself.

If you haven't done this then you have presumption and belief, not evidence.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

You said: at least not at the time, in Tulsa.

Go look up the incident, and try again. Don't give me this shit about "belief" when you don't know the facts of the case.

As I said: While it is possible for lynching not to be racially based, to say that wasn't the case in Tulsa is just false when the media intentionally hyperbolized and racialized a non-event.

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