And she was required to keep his home upkept and his children properly raised.
I can tell you from experience I am well willing to pay the majority of my bills alone to have my food cooked, my laundry done, and my house clean, leaving me to relax and not worry after working all day.
It was a good thing when the roles of it were rigidly enforced by social shaming, so both parties felt the burn to keep up their side of the bargain. Women especially were under far harsher scrutiny to maintain their side because of how much easier their side was.
Well, I don't have or want kids, I'm capable of cooking and I can use a washing machine.
Maybe in the days before most mundane tasks were automated, their role was worth something.
But in 2021, where I can buy a vacuum that drives itself around the room without any input from me, I don't see their value. Every single thing they do can be automated except their biological purpose, but even that is being worked on.
Its not incapability. Its that I just worked 10-12 hours of hard labor and want to sit down. And then be handed good food. You don't know how great it is until you have it. We will never truly go back to those days, but when they did exist they were in fact good things.
You've started from the point of "I don't want them" and then worked backwards, so of course you won't see their value. You aren't looking at it as a cost/benefit analysis, only a "how can I justify myself." A trait you share with them.
Well, that's fair enough. Some people prefer to exchange their money for convenience.
I am looking at it with cost/benefit analysis, and based off losing half of my assets when it goes to shit and getting accused of rape to maximize the payoff, I think the cost is far too high.
Are you telling me that ordering food and having easy to use/automated appliances would somehow cost more than half someone will ever earn?
and based off losing half of my assets when it goes to shit and getting accused of rape to maximize the payoff, I think the cost is far too high.
That's today. The point of disagreement was historically. I wouldn't consider it worth it today by any means, but in the past the incredibly social shame and inability to really rebuild helped keep women much more in line in regards to marriage. Not perfectly, but enough to lower the risk to worth it.
And its far less about money or effort and about time. Only so many hours a day, some of which I would like to spend de-stressing from work and possibly socializing. And the way it is about money is that not everyone is rich enough to just order food constantly and have fancy expensive things to keep their house super clean.
And she was required to keep his home upkept and his children properly raised.
I can tell you from experience I am well willing to pay the majority of my bills alone to have my food cooked, my laundry done, and my house clean, leaving me to relax and not worry after working all day.
It was a good thing when the roles of it were rigidly enforced by social shaming, so both parties felt the burn to keep up their side of the bargain. Women especially were under far harsher scrutiny to maintain their side because of how much easier their side was.
Well, I don't have or want kids, I'm capable of cooking and I can use a washing machine.
Maybe in the days before most mundane tasks were automated, their role was worth something.
But in 2021, where I can buy a vacuum that drives itself around the room without any input from me, I don't see their value. Every single thing they do can be automated except their biological purpose, but even that is being worked on.
Its not incapability. Its that I just worked 10-12 hours of hard labor and want to sit down. And then be handed good food. You don't know how great it is until you have it. We will never truly go back to those days, but when they did exist they were in fact good things.
You've started from the point of "I don't want them" and then worked backwards, so of course you won't see their value. You aren't looking at it as a cost/benefit analysis, only a "how can I justify myself." A trait you share with them.
Well, that's fair enough. Some people prefer to exchange their money for convenience.
I am looking at it with cost/benefit analysis, and based off losing half of my assets when it goes to shit and getting accused of rape to maximize the payoff, I think the cost is far too high.
Are you telling me that ordering food and having easy to use/automated appliances would somehow cost more than half someone will ever earn?
That's today. The point of disagreement was historically. I wouldn't consider it worth it today by any means, but in the past the incredibly social shame and inability to really rebuild helped keep women much more in line in regards to marriage. Not perfectly, but enough to lower the risk to worth it.
And its far less about money or effort and about time. Only so many hours a day, some of which I would like to spend de-stressing from work and possibly socializing. And the way it is about money is that not everyone is rich enough to just order food constantly and have fancy expensive things to keep their house super clean.