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They Are Now Talking About Gassing Whites - "I’ll smile as we raise glasses to your good, white health, while the detonator blinks under the table, knowing the exits are locked and the air vents filled with gas.” (moonbattery.com)
posted 4 years ago by xleb2 4 years ago by xleb2 +70 / -1
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– Adamrises 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

There wouldn't be nearly as many Holocaust deniers as there are if half the points you made could be said out loud without a full "SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING!"

The unquestionable nature of it has created a very exploitable thing both for victim credits and ideology. Which isn't as impossible to notice as it should be, so when someone notices they are getting lied to/exploited they attempt to say something.

Which then creates the cycle of "they shut me down, what are they trying to hide" and it just spirals out of control.

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– evilmathmagician 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The unquestionable nature of it has created a very exploitable thing both for victim credits and ideology

This is the important part of it, to me. I blame a lot of our modern problems on worship of victims (which promotes unhealthy behaviors like aspiring to weakness). I wonder if we'd be where we are now if idle revisionist chatter surrounding WW2 was treated like all other variants of revisionism.

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– TisDaRhythmOfDaNight 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

David Cole's Republican Party Animal is a fascinating insider's take on this. As a (Jewish, Zionist) holocaust revisionist he explains in detail the lengths people went to shut him down, slander him and disassociate from him. Including physical violence and even a bounty on his head (Irv Rubin from the JDL). Pretty quick read, too, if you can stomach the writing style.

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– HisHolyMajesty2 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

In my university, we covered the Holocaust and Holocaust denial. The conclusions of myself and my friends (I even think our teacher was of a similar opinion. He was a bit based as, because he was a historian of fascism, he was adamant that Trump wasn't a fascist) is that even though Holocaust denial is a tad bit absurd, trying to shut it down just makes it worse, and it's already a bit iffy silencing people for disagreeing with you.

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– TisDaRhythmOfDaNight 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

It is vital to make the distinction between Holocaust revisionism and Holocaust denial. They are absolutely not one and the same, and it's just another case of using language to delegitimize.

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– Adamrises 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

And even worse, the deniers have some point. It has been over exaggerated and drummed up to levels far beyond reality, often by those who weren't there just as much as any of us.

Which means even if you want to shut them down, you can't because they have small chunks of lies on your side that holds them up just as much as the reality proves them wrong.

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