Nier has always been super interesting to me. I never played original, but I did pick up Automata, but then I decided not to play that cause I wanted to get the full story, even though I've heard they're not strongly connected. So when they announced the remake that was perfect for me. Now I can play the first without having to play a janky 7th gen console game.
It's weird though, I remember reading some spoilers years ago, which now that the game is relevant again, I've gone and read again. And, it turns out what I read years ago was either incorrect, or I've completely misremembered it. It's like some weird Mandela Effect shit is going on in my head.
Specifically, I remember reading that Kaine was "Trans" in a sense, because she was once a man who's mind was literally put into a female body, which explains why she's so masculine and aggressive. But apparently that's not the case at all. She's actually just Spoilers: A futanari(AKA a girl with a dick). Not sure why I thought what I originally thought. Maybe I just read some weird theory and mistook it for lore. Just felt like sharing that with yall.
Oh really? Huh, so I guess calling her a futa isn't quite correct either. Or is it? Idk, shits confusing man.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to finally experiencing this game for myself. I love weird stories with well done "meta" aspects, and I've heard Yoko Taros games tend to be exactly that.
Hmm, interesting. So, I guess what I remembered was wrong, but part of it was almost true, because of the shade thing. I can't wait to see how that plays into the story. I've heard great things about the story and the characters of Nier, so I'm definitely looking forward playing it.
even though I've heard they're not strongly connected
They are all connected, most of the time the direct connection is only tangible through a lot of references and lore will only make sense having played all the previous games. Automata is the 4th in the series after all.
Like, The Queen Beast is the final boss of the original Drakengard, whose passage to the "real world" is what caused White Chlorination Syndrome which is what caused the Gestalt Project (the entire backstory of Neir Gestalt/Replicant) and then that Project and the events of that game is what leads to humanity being in the state it is by the time of Automata and the creation of the androids.
And that's just the most basic checkpoint version, there are dozens of lines traveling through the games. Though I'm well out of date to properly go into them myself.
People downplay the connections because the original games are either tedious to play (Drakengard), actually awful to play because of hardware issues (Drakengard 3) or lack the coomer or Platinum combat aspects (Neir) that attract people. But its a big connected universe as any really and I'd recommend playing all of them.
Playing being important, not Let's Plays because the tedium of Drakengard 1 is part of the experience and the music/story/combat is actively working to drive you mad. Its probably the closest to "art" I think a game ever has reached because it uses every piece against you. I truly hope we one day get the full uncensored Japanese one released.
I did enjoy reading TheDarkId's LPs of the series on the LP Archive. If you can't get the full experience yourself, it made for good secondhand madness.
Shame he went full SJW like most of Something Awful....
Everybody refers to that one, so I assume it most be good in its own way, but nothing compares to playing it yourself. Just listen to this for a minute to get a taste of the soundtrack, and that's Chapter 1 music. It makes you uneasy after a while.
And that's before you get to the casual genocide, incest, cannibalism, pedophilia, child murder, necrophilia, the cannibalistic pedophilic necrophile character herself. It just bombards your senses to hear this, to play through some levels murdering giant babies trying to eat you, then play a rhythm game to throw a giant woman through space time into Tokyo so that Japanese Fighter Jets can shoot you down.
Nier has always been super interesting to me. I never played original, but I did pick up Automata, but then I decided not to play that cause I wanted to get the full story, even though I've heard they're not strongly connected. So when they announced the remake that was perfect for me. Now I can play the first without having to play a janky 7th gen console game.
It's weird though, I remember reading some spoilers years ago, which now that the game is relevant again, I've gone and read again. And, it turns out what I read years ago was either incorrect, or I've completely misremembered it. It's like some weird Mandela Effect shit is going on in my head.
Specifically, I remember reading that Kaine was "Trans" in a sense, because she was once a man who's mind was literally put into a female body, which explains why she's so masculine and aggressive. But apparently that's not the case at all. She's actually just Spoilers: A futanari(AKA a girl with a dick). Not sure why I thought what I originally thought. Maybe I just read some weird theory and mistook it for lore. Just felt like sharing that with yall.
TLDR: She’s a hermaphrodite.
Oh really? Huh, so I guess calling her a futa isn't quite correct either. Or is it? Idk, shits confusing man.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to finally experiencing this game for myself. I love weird stories with well done "meta" aspects, and I've heard Yoko Taros games tend to be exactly that.
Hmm, interesting. So, I guess what I remembered was wrong, but part of it was almost true, because of the shade thing. I can't wait to see how that plays into the story. I've heard great things about the story and the characters of Nier, so I'm definitely looking forward playing it.
They are all connected, most of the time the direct connection is only tangible through a lot of references and lore will only make sense having played all the previous games. Automata is the 4th in the series after all.
Like, The Queen Beast is the final boss of the original Drakengard, whose passage to the "real world" is what caused White Chlorination Syndrome which is what caused the Gestalt Project (the entire backstory of Neir Gestalt/Replicant) and then that Project and the events of that game is what leads to humanity being in the state it is by the time of Automata and the creation of the androids.
And that's just the most basic checkpoint version, there are dozens of lines traveling through the games. Though I'm well out of date to properly go into them myself.
People downplay the connections because the original games are either tedious to play (Drakengard), actually awful to play because of hardware issues (Drakengard 3) or lack the coomer or Platinum combat aspects (Neir) that attract people. But its a big connected universe as any really and I'd recommend playing all of them.
Playing being important, not Let's Plays because the tedium of Drakengard 1 is part of the experience and the music/story/combat is actively working to drive you mad. Its probably the closest to "art" I think a game ever has reached because it uses every piece against you. I truly hope we one day get the full uncensored Japanese one released.
I did enjoy reading TheDarkId's LPs of the series on the LP Archive. If you can't get the full experience yourself, it made for good secondhand madness.
Shame he went full SJW like most of Something Awful....
Everybody refers to that one, so I assume it most be good in its own way, but nothing compares to playing it yourself. Just listen to this for a minute to get a taste of the soundtrack, and that's Chapter 1 music. It makes you uneasy after a while.
And that's before you get to the casual genocide, incest, cannibalism, pedophilia, child murder, necrophilia, the cannibalistic pedophilic necrophile character herself. It just bombards your senses to hear this, to play through some levels murdering giant babies trying to eat you, then play a rhythm game to throw a giant woman through space time into Tokyo so that Japanese Fighter Jets can shoot you down.
You don't have to sell me on Drakengard's soundtrack. Where else are you going to get a song that perfectly encapsulates the sound of reality itself breaking down due to the end of the world?