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posted 4 years ago by UnsubtleAardvark 4 years ago by UnsubtleAardvark +32 / -5
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– Xzal 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

This is why jury duty and voting should have a check and balance other than age. She might be old enough on paper to vote, but she's still a bloody child.

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– send_it 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Voting and jury duty should be tied to the individual being a net tax payer.

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– Xzal 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Personally I don't see that as being an important investment in one's country. Especially when you're compelled to do so by law. I think the problem. Is the required methods have all been implied fascist, such as Minimum Service.

Personally, I'd say birth in a country is not a right to vote. You still get all your other rights based on human health and wellbeing but a citizenry test should be given and passed at a certain level for the right to vote. During possession of a right to vote, citizens should also then have criteria to meet to keep it. For example as you said, maintaining a net tax payment or in lieu of, proving work effort (ie volunteering).

However that isn't to say that there aren't problems with that as it brings us back towards hierarchical systems akin to feudalism (serfs weren't slaves, but couldn't vote thing).

The problem is, like most thi ngs it takes common sense to know when a system is being abused and the will to not abuse it in the first place.

It could even be much simpler I guess and instead of blind jury, we acknowledge opposing jurors and take people on specifically who think one way or another about the case at hand. In this case, three pro chauvin, three negative, three ambivalent and an elder who has seen/voted in a prior similar case (if not similar they're the tiebreak).

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– Tourgen 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

You shouldn't get to decide how money is spent if you aren't contributing any of the money. It's a pretty simple concept. People just vote to take other people's money otherwise.

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– Piroko 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

birth in a country is not a right to vote

WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?

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– Xzal 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Having served and would again (for a legitimate service), Yes.

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– AboriginalIvory 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

So should voting but then you would only have the super rich vote.

With the amount of money our governments are spending no one is a net positive. I paid 24k(income) in taxes up here in Canada but our government spent almost 40k per payer. Which would mean that rich and super rich would only get to vote since they are the only ones making over 40k.

I am not a zero sum game type were you hate on the rich.

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– Tourgen 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

If by "super rich" you mean someone who is a net positive to the text base? That's not super rich. That's just not a communist parasite voting for other people's money. Not a very high bar.

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