About nine months ago this lifeboat came into existence following massive purges by Reddit admins against non-establishment conforming materials. Those purges never ended, which is why this particular forum has become the overall bastion for KIA2/GG materials.
On the creation of this site we were presented a set of 16 rules which we, the users, were questioned about. Overwhelming we found that the rules were overbearing and redundant.
Many of these rules are redundant, unnecessary, or bad.
The most obvious of which is that there are THREE rules covering NSFW/pornographic material. It was pointed out by myself as well as numerous other users that these were redundant and pointless, and the assumption was that these would be changed as the rules were simply temporary.
It's nine months on.
Those are only the most egregiously obvious.
The reason I make this post today is that our rules are so open-ended and confusing that even our illustrious mods have no idea WTF they mean.
I was personally banned for a day for a rule 15 violation after which u/DomitiusOfMassilia/ admitted he misunderstood what the rule meant. Immediately after I watched him make the same mistake with another. Now, a week after, I notice that the majority of action is taken under rules 2, 15, and 16. Almost all content removals are based on slurs/bad language/insults.
This post is largely upvoted while Dom's statement of removal is largely downvoted. That's just one example. This is becoming far too common. Please do not make the same mistakes that murdered KIA1.
Note that I am not calling out Dom specifically. I think the rules themselves are dogshit tier and must be fixed. I like this community, even if I do think you're a bunch of faggots. And goddamnit u/TheImpossible1 there's no women involved here so kindly fuck off.
Can we please have a serious discussion about our rules and the impacts that they have, and FIX THEM? We do not need SIXTEEN RULES, especially when it's clear not even our mods understand them all.
So this isn't a place for free speech and we should be looking elsewhere? I thought the reason we were here instead of on Reddit is so that we don't have to censor things. But you're willing to just do it anyway.
Porn's just too risky.
Personally I'm fine with that not being here, but that's not what this discussion is about.
What would you like to be the standard for removals? There's always illegal stuff that has to be removed. There's also some non-illegal stuff that does have to be removed, like spam.
This place is about Gamergate. It's not "Jews are evil", nor is it about any other petty agenda that someone may want to advance.
The sub has evolved past just being about Gamergate to politics in general, which I think is good. But that is naturally going to lead to people discussing conspiracies. Picking and choosing what opinions you think are valid or not isn't a good moderation strategy unless you want this place to end up like Reddit. Saying X conspiracy is not allowed to be discussed sets precedent and is a slippery slope to banning more discussions.
Any resistance to Social Justice is Gamergate.
I did not want that, because politics are a distraction. I'd much rather fix the culture, and politics will take care of itself, as it is downstream from culture.
That said, the rule against unrelated politics on r/Kia2 was never unsuspended, because it seemed to me that this was not what the users wanted. You could argue that IDPol has infected politics to such an extent that it has become very relevant.
Where exactly did you get that discussion of conspiracies was going to be banned? That is quite different from becoming another /r/conspiracy though.
They had a very limited definition of what "Gamergate" is, removing anti-SJW stuff as well.
I am pretty confident in saying that Gamergate was not about "gas the kikes".