Christianity should not become a religion that preaches self destruction over a misguided sense of fraternity.
Christianity is a religion that preaches fraternity as the goal, blind to any consequences. Always has been. If we're brought to ruin by doing so, c'est la vie.
Look, I'll give you the cliff notes version of a revelation.
You wanna fight a moral-ethical system? You need to offer a COMPETING moral-ethical system.
SOMEONE is going to have to have the hubris to speak for god and offer a new revelation. A new interpretation. Just like Moses, and Christ, and Muhammed, and Smith. And that person is going to take a lot of shit for doing so.
Petersonian self-help isn't enough; it's a good start but it needs more. Only the voice of god can counter the voice of god.
We are told to follow the example of Christ, but Christ did not offer His children upon the cross, nor His friends. He offered Himself - and before doing so, He ordered His disciples to arm themselves.
You may bear any burden you choose, but you may not load a burden upon another and call yourself Christian.
In the Friends we hold that every person can experience (and speak) the divine. But of the Bible the only thing we actually put any emphasis on is the sermons, that is, Jesus expressing the divine.
If that seems complicated, I'll try to simplify it with a really, really bad analogy.
How do you know the light side of the force vs the dark side?
You just know. It's where it comes from. If you're not trying to transgress, if you're trying to protect yourself and others and avoid harm, that is the light side and if you're trying to inflict harm, to assert your will, that's the dark side. Simple as.
I said earlier "Men created divisions, not god."
To which the reply came as a quote from Genesis about Babel. But the thing is... where did that come from? I don't mean the quote, I mean the will behind posting the quote? It comes from a place of duplicitousness. It's an attempt to gotchya, to litigate. There's nothing divine about it, and it doesn't negate the spirit of what I said, which is effectively that god doesn't care about flags or invisible lines on the ground. Your concern for others can't end because of a distinction, arbitrary or otherwise.
And that is why you are not a christian.
Men created divisions, not god. God would have those with more give eagerly to those with less.
If being a Christian requires being self destructive then I hope more people walk away from Christianity.
America is on the path to self destruction because of notions of social justice like this.
Christianity should not become a religion that preaches self destruction over a misguided sense of fraternity.
All people are not the same. Different cultures have different values. To not see that and acknowledge that, is suicidal on a societal level.
It is the mentality of the "Friends" why Europe is full of leftists proud of mass importing rapefugees.
I truly have nothing against Christians but I just don't like people of any background who push destructive policies.
I think the "friends" and any people like them should not be voting.
Christianity is a religion that preaches fraternity as the goal, blind to any consequences. Always has been. If we're brought to ruin by doing so, c'est la vie.
Maybe you should.
Well then.
I will just reiterate this one part of my argument.
If being a Christian requires being self destructive then I hope more people walk away from Christianity.
That's not enough.
Look, I'll give you the cliff notes version of a revelation.
You wanna fight a moral-ethical system? You need to offer a COMPETING moral-ethical system.
SOMEONE is going to have to have the hubris to speak for god and offer a new revelation. A new interpretation. Just like Moses, and Christ, and Muhammed, and Smith. And that person is going to take a lot of shit for doing so.
Petersonian self-help isn't enough; it's a good start but it needs more. Only the voice of god can counter the voice of god.
We are told to follow the example of Christ, but Christ did not offer His children upon the cross, nor His friends. He offered Himself - and before doing so, He ordered His disciples to arm themselves.
You may bear any burden you choose, but you may not load a burden upon another and call yourself Christian.
It's not me that distributes burdens.
I'm just reminding you that they're there, and that there were people who tried a lot harder in the past to carry them, than people do today.
And this is why I only really look to the Sermons for inspiration because the rest of the book is contradictory.
You're what I call a "litigatious christian", ie, one who uses texts as a set of loopholes to be exploited.
In the Friends we hold that every person can experience (and speak) the divine. But of the Bible the only thing we actually put any emphasis on is the sermons, that is, Jesus expressing the divine.
If that seems complicated, I'll try to simplify it with a really, really bad analogy.
How do you know the light side of the force vs the dark side?
You just know. It's where it comes from. If you're not trying to transgress, if you're trying to protect yourself and others and avoid harm, that is the light side and if you're trying to inflict harm, to assert your will, that's the dark side. Simple as.
I said earlier "Men created divisions, not god."
To which the reply came as a quote from Genesis about Babel. But the thing is... where did that come from? I don't mean the quote, I mean the will behind posting the quote? It comes from a place of duplicitousness. It's an attempt to gotchya, to litigate. There's nothing divine about it, and it doesn't negate the spirit of what I said, which is effectively that god doesn't care about flags or invisible lines on the ground. Your concern for others can't end because of a distinction, arbitrary or otherwise.