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The Texan Holodomor is just the beginning. (twitter.com)
posted 4 years ago by ramzaruglia 4 years ago by ramzaruglia +56 / -1
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– Gizortnik 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

I'm not giving ground to Communists. They're welcome to leave.

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– NoGardE 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

The communists already hold the ground. Secession prevents them from taking even more.

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– Gizortnik 10 points 4 years ago +11 / -1

No it wouldn't. That's like saying "border walls stop communism".

Clearly, it doesn't. You can't cower your way to victory against the Reds. They must be blunted directly, with no ground ceded to them. I don't care what they currently have. What we have to do now is start taking from them, and refusing to give ground where they don't force us out.

Make them pay out the nose for every inch of ground they take.

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– NoGardE 13 points 4 years ago +14 / -1

And how do you propose that happens? They control every branch of government at the federal level, enough states to steal any presidential election, the upper echelons of the military, and every major cultural institution.

If we secede, we can let them collapse and retake their ground afterwards. Within the system, whag are we to do other than lose gracefully, then have them spit on our corpses.

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– Gizortnik 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

They control every branch of government at the federal level, enough states to steal any presidential election, the upper echelons of the military, and every major cultural institution.

And the response has been to let the Left continue to delegitimize every single one of those institutions with further infighting, purging, and ideological zealotry which is not held by most Americans.

Let them collapse the institutions while we build anti-parallel institutions within their sphere of influence. Let them rage, let them scream, and even let them fight. They will continue to fail until we entirely replace those institutions or seize them when they become weak enough to take.

If we secede, we can let them collapse and retake their ground afterwards.

No, you wouldn't... because it's never been done. Even when states split into communist and anti-communist. Instead, you'd get a full throated invasion (like literally ever other time). From that point on, you'd get a massive communist state perpetually attempting to rally an insurgency in the non-communist state until that state's authoritarianism leads inevitably to it's collapse by communist infiltration and propaganda.

This has happened multiple times.

You can't defeat communists by giving ground. At this point, the progressives are essentially relying on right-wing defeatism for all territorial gains because their momentum is being blunted by populism. When you push back on that momentum, you'll get a cascade failure.

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– MargarineMongoose 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

The solution to Communists is very simple but requires a great deal of courage and moral certitude.

You shoot them.

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... continue reading thread?
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– MargarineMongoose 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

As pessimistic as I am, this is the right attitude to take. Our country is worth fighting for, even if we have eject several million people from it for their treason.

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– Gizortnik 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Communists promote bio-leninism and cowardice to maintain control. The authoritarianism and violence they perpetrated against their own Leftists culled the Left because the Left always submits to power. They don't think like the anti-Left.

You probably wouldn't even need to eject a thousand communists.

Just don't be weak to their demands.

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– MargarineMongoose 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

So really we just need to tell them "no" and metaphorically swat them with a rolled up newspaper and they'll shape up? I'm not sure I understand the approach you're trying to outline here.

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– Gizortnik 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

When we tell them no, they'll attack. Then you don't stop counter-punching.

The Left will attack because they need expansion to even stabilize. The moment there's no enemy, they purge themselves to death. Their strategy relies primarily off of momentum from aggressive initiatives, and their morale is always strained to the breaking point, exhausting most people who associate with them.

You tell them no, they launch an all out attack, you counter-punch, and the momentum of that attack will break. You rapidly seize what ground you can and burn the institution you were fighting over to the fucking ground and remove every aspect of protectionism they've built up for their loyalists.

Leftists promote bio-Leninism by abusing people into a weakened state which makes them easier to control. Remove the protections that these people rely on, and they will learn how to be less dependent in a fairly short time frame.

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– elleand202 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Sure, we wouldn’t need to. I’d eject them because it’d be fucking enjoyable to do so.

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– MrJ4242 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

The president just killed over 28 citizens to push a political narrative. What is left to be saved?

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

The land itself if nothing else you insufferable coward.

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– MrJ4242 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

They control everything from the government to the schools to the media. They can’t be stopped before they’ll destroy all semblance of freedom secession and then conquering the failed state as it collapses without the people it feeds off of is a far sounder strategy than continuing on as we have for years with no ground gained only lost.

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– Gizortnik 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Oh please, like Conservatives have managed to take a fucking stand in any of the years past. Donald Trump had to teach the right how to even attempt to win, and you're prepared to abandon it all at the first sign of trouble. Most conservatives have still yet to take a hard stand, and your attitude is exactly why. Abandoning those institutions and actually living around them as their system collapses is actually within fucking reach, but you're just too eager to give ground that they haven't taken.

Reactionaries genuinely are the useful idiots of the Left because your defeatism is absolutely weaponized.

What you propose has never happened in the history of all Communism. What actually happens is that the separation is taken as causus belli for either an invasion or an insurgency, and you lose that war too because you've never stood your ground before.

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– ramzaruglia [S] 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

Inb4 you'll be tagged as a glowie fed

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