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posted 5 years ago by FediverseFan 5 years ago by FediverseFan +10 / -0
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– FediverseFan [S] 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

They are functionally identical to places like Twitter and Reddit in terms of the quality of the people running it.

You can see that many "branches" have their content suspended from interacting with Mastodon for things like harassment and hate speech. This is why it is not reliable. If the people moderating things are compromised then anywhere good just gets quarantined away, same as Reddit.

I think there's some confusion here. "Mastodon" isn't just some other social media alternative that requires you to use their infrastructure. It's self contained software you run on your own server as an "instance", and no one on the "official" mastodon instances has control over any of it. The code of conduct you've posted only applies to a couple instances out of thousands, and anyone can host their own instance with their own rules and team.

Information is shared not just to clients but between instances when interactions happen between them, or when an instance chooses to directly relay another. If a post is deleted on one instance, it can still be mirrored and stored on multiple other instances. You can even make a single user instance just so you have your own personal database of public posts.

(Also regardless of what the Mastodon team thinks, Pleroma is the same thing but lightweight and not made by SJWs. I recommend you look at instances like https://shitposter.club/ and https://freespeechextremist.com/ to see examples of what the Fediverse could be.)

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– Arkana 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Yes Mastodon is one instance, but it's the biggest one of their "twitter alternatives" which means it basically has monopoly power in the same way that twitter actually does. I'm using it as an example that what happened that made twitter and reddit bad is exactly the same thing happening to federated projects as well.

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– FediverseFan [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

it basically has monopoly power in the same way that twitter actually does.

The whole point of federated sites is it’s literally impossible to have a monopoly on power. If you’re banned from 1 instance of a million people, there’s still thousands of instances with thousands of people each, and those instances can form a seamless mesh network using relays.

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– Arkana 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Whenever any single instance grows big enough it will get compromised in the exact same way "big tech" has. They will pressure smaller instances into falling in line or else they will have no reach.

What you are saying is basically to "hope the problem goes away on its own" which it never will. You need to get to the root of the issue of why things get compromised in the first place, and that's something you can't run away from forever.

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– FediverseFan [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Encouraging federation and for people to create their own instances isn’t just “hoping the problem will go away on its own” If this theoretical “big instance” scenario happens then people will simply move to other instances, and they still federate with each other so they’ll have just as much reach as the big one. Also I’d very much like you to elaborate of why exactly things get “compromised”

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