Yep. Hazing is basically designed to weed out people that can't take a joke or get violently confrontational over minor things. It is the simplest test to see if someone is a raging asshole.
Put a bunch of hot sauce in someone's beer when they're not looking. If they laugh it off go "fuck you, guys" and get another beer, they're a normal person that you can hang out with. If they flip the fuck out, knock over a table and want to fight everyone you know not to keep them in your circle.
So people like this are either the above mentioned assholes or I would take it a step further and say they never had any real socialization with guys and find the concept foreign, or that they're overly sensitive or have other deep rooted issues, or a combination thereof.
They don't understand that guys hanging out is a game of bullshitting and trading insulting. From an outside perspective the closest group of guy friends will look like they can't stand each other because it will be a constant stream of insults. But internally that is a sign of trust and camaraderie.
Hazing is basically designed to weed out people that can't take a joke or get violently confrontational over minor things. It is the simplest test to see if someone is a raging asshole.
I'd say it's also supposed to be a 'right of passage', but there's no question that people take it way to fucking far.
I never really liked the "Blood Stripe" hazing of kneeing the fucking our of someone in their leg. There were no shit instances of people's femur's being shattered after 30 fucking knee-strikes.
There's a fine line between a tradition that costs nothing and has no value, and a hazing ritual that really only breeds resentment because it's being repeated as a form of punishment that other people 'finally' get to inflict on others.
So people like this are either the above mentioned assholes or I would take it a step further and say they never had any real socialization with guys and find the concept foreign, or that they're overly sensitive or have other deep rooted issues, or a combination thereof.
It's a big tell. It's why I described in a different comment that the way schools help 'socialize' kids who are being bullied is that abuse and victim are exactly the same and will be punished the same, so over-reaction is just as appropriate as complete inaction. If a kid gets punched in the face, you suspend both the bully and the victim for fighting. So he learns to do whatever he can to send a message. Suddenly the victim gets punched in the face, but the bully is left with a broken orbital bone from being hit in the eye with a chair. Now the bully is suspended, and the victim is in Juvie.
They don't understand that guys hanging out is a game of bullshitting and trading insulting. From an outside perspective the closest group of guy friends will look like they can't stand each other because it will be a constant stream of insults. But internally that is a sign of trust and camaraderie.
Looking back on it, the (fairly toxic feminists) women on r/Women didn't say a fucking word about it. But the men watching r/Women were interested in understanding Socialization that they hadn't experienced.
Yep. Hazing is basically designed to weed out people that can't take a joke or get violently confrontational over minor things. It is the simplest test to see if someone is a raging asshole.
Put a bunch of hot sauce in someone's beer when they're not looking. If they laugh it off go "fuck you, guys" and get another beer, they're a normal person that you can hang out with. If they flip the fuck out, knock over a table and want to fight everyone you know not to keep them in your circle.
So people like this are either the above mentioned assholes or I would take it a step further and say they never had any real socialization with guys and find the concept foreign, or that they're overly sensitive or have other deep rooted issues, or a combination thereof.
They don't understand that guys hanging out is a game of bullshitting and trading insulting. From an outside perspective the closest group of guy friends will look like they can't stand each other because it will be a constant stream of insults. But internally that is a sign of trust and camaraderie.
I'd say it's also supposed to be a 'right of passage', but there's no question that people take it way to fucking far.
I never really liked the "Blood Stripe" hazing of kneeing the fucking our of someone in their leg. There were no shit instances of people's femur's being shattered after 30 fucking knee-strikes.
There's a fine line between a tradition that costs nothing and has no value, and a hazing ritual that really only breeds resentment because it's being repeated as a form of punishment that other people 'finally' get to inflict on others.
It's a big tell. It's why I described in a different comment that the way schools help 'socialize' kids who are being bullied is that abuse and victim are exactly the same and will be punished the same, so over-reaction is just as appropriate as complete inaction. If a kid gets punched in the face, you suspend both the bully and the victim for fighting. So he learns to do whatever he can to send a message. Suddenly the victim gets punched in the face, but the bully is left with a broken orbital bone from being hit in the eye with a chair. Now the bully is suspended, and the victim is in Juvie.
My most popular post on Reddit was trying to describe this on r/Women
Looking back on it, the (fairly toxic feminists) women on r/Women didn't say a fucking word about it. But the men watching r/Women were interested in understanding Socialization that they hadn't experienced.
I like the ball analogy
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