Classical Liberalism failed because it lost solidarity. Even now you will have people of all stripes and colors saying "Don't use identity politics!" and even I (and many others here I imagine) fell for it for a long time. This is because politics based on your identity is the only way to create a human organization with significant longevity.
Depends on what you mean by identity, if you mean immutable characteristics as is usually implied by the 'identity politics' then I disagree. There's plenty of other keystones of solidarity that can and have been used, even explicitly nationalist states generally allowed outsiders to become citizens if they jumped through enough hoops, and plenty of those secured multigenerational longevity.
If you just meant identity as a more general shared core views and values, then I agree for the most part. Western liberalism is dying because, after a moment of comfortable cultural supremacy, it forgot how to reinforce it's core values or even protect itself from antagonistic evangelism, and that solidarity eroded to the point that the majority can't clearly agree that protecting freedom is important anymore.
"National" means people group, with the Latin root specifically referring to being born. Every identity is ultimately traced back to genetics in some way. To try and avoid genetics and look at simply a shared "spirit" will erode the foundations by which it was made. Culture and society are ultimately expressions of biology, because the brain is an organ.
The main issue I see for those who look at a shared "spirit" is they don't want to enforce that spirit.
America is a nation built on common values!
So does that mean the government can test for those values and deny/strip citizenship from people who don't have them?
...no of course not!
So you're left in a situation where you can't even attempt to ensure the continuation of the basis upon which you're claiming your nation is built. It's like starting a business making widgets and being unable to hire and fire people based on their ability or desire to make widgets. Assuming such a business survives at all, you'll have no way of knowing whether or not it'll still be making widgets in the long-term.
Being born somewhere geographically doesn't determine your genetics, it just broadly correlates (or rather, corellated, now that transport infrastructure has reached a global scale it will become less and less specific), nationality is not an immutable identity, it is a soft one, it's semi-permanant enough to have some meaning but you can still change it with enough effort.
But if you really want to go the 100% biologically deterministic route, then wokeism must apparently be an expression of superior genetic connection, given that it is currently in the process of supplanting family units and other traditional identities.
Nature and nurture both exist, trying to build a society entirely around nature is just as narrow-minded as trying to build one entirely around nurture.
Nationality does not mean citizenship. You are born into your nationality, you cannot change it. Your children can have a different nationality depending on who you have them with.
Everything that is "nurture" always has it's roots based in biology, because once again the brain is a biological organ.
Classical Liberalism failed because it lost solidarity. Even now you will have people of all stripes and colors saying "Don't use identity politics!" and even I (and many others here I imagine) fell for it for a long time. This is because politics based on your identity is the only way to create a human organization with significant longevity.
Depends on what you mean by identity, if you mean immutable characteristics as is usually implied by the 'identity politics' then I disagree. There's plenty of other keystones of solidarity that can and have been used, even explicitly nationalist states generally allowed outsiders to become citizens if they jumped through enough hoops, and plenty of those secured multigenerational longevity.
If you just meant identity as a more general shared core views and values, then I agree for the most part. Western liberalism is dying because, after a moment of comfortable cultural supremacy, it forgot how to reinforce it's core values or even protect itself from antagonistic evangelism, and that solidarity eroded to the point that the majority can't clearly agree that protecting freedom is important anymore.
"National" means people group, with the Latin root specifically referring to being born. Every identity is ultimately traced back to genetics in some way. To try and avoid genetics and look at simply a shared "spirit" will erode the foundations by which it was made. Culture and society are ultimately expressions of biology, because the brain is an organ.
The main issue I see for those who look at a shared "spirit" is they don't want to enforce that spirit.
So you're left in a situation where you can't even attempt to ensure the continuation of the basis upon which you're claiming your nation is built. It's like starting a business making widgets and being unable to hire and fire people based on their ability or desire to make widgets. Assuming such a business survives at all, you'll have no way of knowing whether or not it'll still be making widgets in the long-term.
Being born somewhere geographically doesn't determine your genetics, it just broadly correlates (or rather, corellated, now that transport infrastructure has reached a global scale it will become less and less specific), nationality is not an immutable identity, it is a soft one, it's semi-permanant enough to have some meaning but you can still change it with enough effort.
But if you really want to go the 100% biologically deterministic route, then wokeism must apparently be an expression of superior genetic connection, given that it is currently in the process of supplanting family units and other traditional identities.
Nature and nurture both exist, trying to build a society entirely around nature is just as narrow-minded as trying to build one entirely around nurture.
Nationality does not mean citizenship. You are born into your nationality, you cannot change it. Your children can have a different nationality depending on who you have them with.
Everything that is "nurture" always has it's roots based in biology, because once again the brain is a biological organ.