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YesMovement [S] 17 points ago +17 / -0


In the entire province of Ontario (population 14.5 million; 268 hospitals) there are eight virus patients on ventilators.


The death rate is now so low, there are days in a row with zero fatalities.

"Cases" is a way of scaring people.

Source: https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data

Xzal 2 points ago +2 / -0

"cases" is why a lot of the UK is still or never left lockdown and are now facing "second wave". There are places here where diagnosis is STILL verbal/visual confirmation and not testing.

Personally I would love to see the amount of people who were sent for testing and came back false also.

BasedOnSomething 12 points ago +12 / -0

It's funny, isn't it? And I might be wrong about this, but did anyone ever say anything about the possibility of permanent lung damage as a result of coronavirus before they could no longer scare us with the death statistics, or were we gaslit about that, too?

ClockworkFool 11 points ago +11 / -0

Long term lung damage was one of the early things they talked about when people outside of China started really looking into the thing, as I recall. As a talking point, it kind of came and went, but it's one of those topics that sticks in my mind, personally, whereas the media basically seemed to lose interest in the idea within a week or so of the 24 hour news cycle churning.

It popped up a few times, usually as a side-comment or something when you had actual medical experts on talking about stuff. The media was always much more interested in more lurid ideas like the potential of catastrophic mass deaths or whether or not the week's developments could be spun for political ends.

I've rarely heard much concrete information on it though. I mean, partly because I don't seek out any of this stuff, I hear enough about covid already without actively seeking the topic out. But also because it's hard to get concrete information about a disease that has only really been around since it escaped from a Chinese lab around or under a year ago.

I spent a lot of the first half of the year taking extra pinches of salt whenever anyone in the media talked about the symptoms or risks associated, because they always seemed to be about two weeks behind the internet in terms of figuring that shit out.

Xzal 1 point ago +1 / -0

Long term lung damage still isn't that surprising a side effect anyway. Severe flu cases cause it anyway.

666sadfrogs 3 points ago +4 / -1

There were definitely rumors about it for a while, but I’m pretty sure that the media and governments just recently started spreading that information.

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GoggleHead 3 points ago +3 / -0

The sunk cost of scaring everyone out of their mind for the last six months means that even if they wanted to calm everyone down they couldn't because they would lose so much face. Either we get an organic grassroots pushback against this shit or it will continue until they can manufacture a "vaccine". This whole situation disgusts me and has made me lose respect for so many people.

TentElephant 9 points ago +9 / -0

How many amplification cycles are Canadian labs using for their PCR tests? Anything over 35 cycles is worthless because you're detecting dead virus at that point, false positives. American labs are doing 40 cycles.

666sadfrogs 5 points ago +6 / -1

Around here they started reporting “daily average cases” instead of just daily cases. They are taking the average amount of new cases added within a 14 day period and posting those numbers.