given the political landscape of the last six months to a year (maybe longer?), both in the U.S. and abroad, is it time for people who aren't ashamed to express right leaning viewpoints to begin retaking their rightful place in the digital public square?
I understand the hesestince and disgust with the censorship and other nefarious tactics of mainstream platforms like facebook, youtube, and hell, even reddit, but the normies don't exactly come to places like minds, dot win, etc unless they're eyes have been forced open like many of us have. I also suspect that these companies are keenly aware of which way the wind is blowing and would very much like to weather the political shitshow that is such a major paradigm shift in politics.
Timing would be key, of course, but do you think we're getting close to such a singularity?
One of the big problems that let the Left control a lot of those spaces, independent of the censorship, is that lots of Right wing people just don't care to be on those spaces to begin with. Not to the same level of the Left or in general, just because of the broad strokes differences in personality between the two groups.
I'm sure a lot of guys here weren't on much social media to begin with. They didn't need to get banned or forced out, they didn't show up to begin with. Which is why it was so easy for the Left to capture it without needing an obvious, heavy hand of moderation to control for so long.
So I really don't expect the sway that way to be as significant as it theoretically could be, simply because no one is interested in doing so. The big big mainstream ones like Youtube might get somewhere, but public discourse is also heavily influenced by places like Tiktok and Instagram which I don't see many non-grifter Right wing guys setting up a huge shop with massive audiences.
It's not just the Left. We've basically seen a cottage industry of Revolutionary, Communist, Furries take over most if not all moderation across the west.
We should be more assertive in larger digital spaces, particularly in video games, but don't expect NOT to get disproportionately aggresive blowback.
The thing is, many on the right just haven't even accepted the premise of giving up control of their social lives to anyone at all, regardless of politics. Many just simply enjoy seeing the people they care about face to face instead. We're experiencing a really interesting paradigm shift right now where "what's possible" is being replaced by "what's desirable" in people's outlook.
What we really need to do is forget the idea that social media should be such a large part of our lives. The behaviours we hate to see from far left zealots are self defeating, and their spaces will eat themselves before too long, especially as many of the earnest moderate left types will continue to get pushed out because they need someone to engage negatively with.
Social Media is a large part of modern life because we've atomized so badly that it's the closest thing to creating a simulacrum of a real social network. To actually build out real social networks would require us to have already won the culture war.
Otherwise, the IRL social networks will be mostly political organizing, which is what the Leftists currently do.
i've gotta chew on what you said, it's very interesting. thank you.
If it helps to put it simpler, which person is more likely to be glued to his phone, working an office job with too much free time, or stuck inside a shitty apartment? Which is more likely to have a family, a yard, a church to attend, a garage to work on things, or a gym?
Its very basic things like that that could make a huge difference here.
no i get it, i just need time to roll it around in my head and come up with le epic comeback-that-will-never-occur-because-even-if-think-of-a-good-one-it'll-only-come-to-me-like-six-months-from-now.
jokes aside, it's just something I gotta think about.
There's been a paradigm shift.
People used to go online to escape the issues of real life.
Now people go offline to escape the issues of the internet.
you have a point.
lmao.
Raids. We called them raiding in the old imageboard days.
Set up our own infrastructure, then attack these hives.
raid, hell, i'm talking about a reconquista.
that being said, i'm not sure about the timing, much less setting up infrastructure to do so. i wasn't exactly involved in the long, long ago times. i'm just trying to test the waters and see when we should push back in areas that haven't come around on their own yet.