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Oh look, X is awash with a story about the F-35 again. (media.scored.co)
posted 2 months ago by PraiseBeToScience 2 months ago by PraiseBeToScience +42 / -16
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– CatoTheElder 9 points 2 months ago +9 / -0

Those "drones" you're talking about are single-use, extremely low-mass, and are powered by a fucking solid-fuel rocket and batteries. Coincidentally they're also unsophisticated, short-ranged, single-purpose designs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZALA_Lancet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AeroVironment_Switchblade

So you are stuck on the propulsion? LOL.

You know what they also don't have? Wings that provide lift.

Every one of the missiles I mentioned has wings, and anything moving through an airstream has can create lift by increasing its drag. Just look at the crossrange on a Falcon 9 booster or Soyuz capsule.

AIM-9s into combat from hundreds of miles away and let them fly themselves to the AOR to engage targets?

Guess what, that is exactly what Russia and Ukraine are doing, with the Saker Scout and equivalents.

What is the maximum g-load of an F-15E with GBU-31s loaded,

Why the hell are you taking GBU-31's on a CAP mission? If your g-loads matter then it's because you are doing Air Superiority missions. G-load doesn't matter for CAS and SEAD.

The planes are designed with the pilot in mind. The munitions are designed with the plane in mind. You change the platform by removing the pilot, then you change the requirements. If the munition has to stay attached during a 30 g maneuver, then the munition will be designed for such. I'd say this isn't rocket science, but it actually is in this case, so I understand why smoothbrains like you can't figure it out.

The real reason that fighting aircraft are not designed for 30 g maneuvers is because even that won't save the aircraft from the 60g AIM-9X launched within 10nm. This is why single use loitering munition drones are being used, since defense doesn't work, so you might as well make them cheaper and more replaceable.

I do invite you to do combat missions in an aircraft over Ukraine for which ever side you prefer, the sooner and the more missions the better.

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– PraiseBeToScience [S] -3 points 2 months ago +3 / -6

Literally what the fuck are you talking about? You're trying to make a point that a 'fighter drone' can be immensely maneuverable and high-speed and when I point out all the limitations you come back with what are ostensibly just RC planes that are outlandishly slow and unmaneuverable.

Notice that all the 'drones' you linked, when they needed them to have long-range, all went with wings and high-endurance engines... not solid rocket motors and fins that spend most of their time gliding to the target, like a missile does.

The Army doesn't even consider the Switchblade to be a drone, and the Shahed has more in common with a cruise missile.

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– CatoTheElder 7 points 2 months ago +7 / -0

I can't help it that you smoked so much pot that you can't remember what you typed even two hours ago.

You claimed that missiles and drones are some how different because one uses a rocket motor, and the other uses anything but a rocket motor, which is an insane argument.

You claimed that aircraft cannot go over 9g which is flatearther level retarded. I gave examples of machines that can go over 9g.

The hilarious thing is you are stuck, not fighting the last war, but fighting the Korean War. If you are having to pull max g's against any sort of short range air to air missile, then you have already fucked up and lost, and the defenses against BVR missiles don't require max g's.

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