Tbh I've never seen a Ukranian refugee say no zelensky needs to go. Instead they seem very gungho on the war from my impressions in Twitter, which might be a skewed sample.
Yeah idk, the only certain thing is that we have no real guarantee on what information coming out of there is actually true or not. I wouldn’t be shocked if most of them believe they are fighting for their country instead of the reality that young men are being sent to the grinder for a paycheck
There are other factors than potential bias at KIIS at play too - Zelensky might genuinely have a higher approval rate due to patriotism as a wartime president, or he might have a higher measured approval rate due to various forms of pressure against dissenters.
Well if you read the full post, he mentions that sociss, another polling company that did exit polls for Ukraines last few major elections have him at 16%. Huge discrepancy
Reality check: 4% approval in a country currently at war on its home territory is not possible. How would they recruit and arm anyone for the front lines if 96% hate them? There wouldn't even be enough believers even for barrier troops. Cell phones are everywhere, there would be leaks of front line soldiers speaking out against the leadership all the time, but we only see that from russians. At least make the lies plausible.
And then what? Gave them machine guns and asked them nicely to only shoot the other team? Ask them nicely never to post a video online? Same with their family and friends? This doesn't pass the sniff test. No one has that kind of media control.
I've seen a few videos alleged to be conscription grabs and it just doesn't make sense. You can't drag someone kicking and screaming to the front line of a modern war, it just won't work. At the very least you'd have to drag them to jail for draft dodging and use that to pressure others into signing up willingly - that would be a plausible story, but propagandists just can't help themselves and make up insane shit. I'd bet half those videos are just drunks being arrested for disturbing the peace.
We’ll probably never really know but at the very least zelensky doesnt have the approval of all the people he’s forcibly conscripted, though a lot of them are probably dead. Then it depends on how their family feels about their conscription and death.
I would be very interested in what a poll of those who fled overseas says and how much his approval rating is in that
But his approval rating is 57%! People would never flee from something they love…right?
Tbh I've never seen a Ukranian refugee say no zelensky needs to go. Instead they seem very gungho on the war from my impressions in Twitter, which might be a skewed sample.
Yeah idk, the only certain thing is that we have no real guarantee on what information coming out of there is actually true or not. I wouldn’t be shocked if most of them believe they are fighting for their country instead of the reality that young men are being sent to the grinder for a paycheck
Correct. It’s just like the State of Illinois. The people love it and no one would ever leave!
There are other factors than potential bias at KIIS at play too - Zelensky might genuinely have a higher approval rate due to patriotism as a wartime president, or he might have a higher measured approval rate due to various forms of pressure against dissenters.
Well if you read the full post, he mentions that sociss, another polling company that did exit polls for Ukraines last few major elections have him at 16%. Huge discrepancy
Reality check: 4% approval in a country currently at war on its home territory is not possible. How would they recruit and arm anyone for the front lines if 96% hate them? There wouldn't even be enough believers even for barrier troops. Cell phones are everywhere, there would be leaks of front line soldiers speaking out against the leadership all the time, but we only see that from russians. At least make the lies plausible.
They made them. The military hunted down Ukrainian men and boys and forced them to join.
And then what? Gave them machine guns and asked them nicely to only shoot the other team? Ask them nicely never to post a video online? Same with their family and friends? This doesn't pass the sniff test. No one has that kind of media control.
I've seen a few videos alleged to be conscription grabs and it just doesn't make sense. You can't drag someone kicking and screaming to the front line of a modern war, it just won't work. At the very least you'd have to drag them to jail for draft dodging and use that to pressure others into signing up willingly - that would be a plausible story, but propagandists just can't help themselves and make up insane shit. I'd bet half those videos are just drunks being arrested for disturbing the peace.
We’ll probably never really know but at the very least zelensky doesnt have the approval of all the people he’s forcibly conscripted, though a lot of them are probably dead. Then it depends on how their family feels about their conscription and death.