As someone who actually studied Nietzche, can we stop equating his work and philosophy to the Nazis.
That was caused by his bitch of a sister who misused and misrepresented his work because she WAS a Nazi. I remember when I studied Nietzche, I had a philosophy professor who would constantly say how much of a colossal bitch Nietzche's sister was lol.
I get that Nietzsche is the goto for the rise of the Nazis but it's not without warrant.
The influences of Kant and Schopenhauer on his philosophical thinking married with Goethe, Dostoevsky, Wagner and Zoroaster for his leisurely pursuits set against the fashionable French moralists all set the stage for a Germany proud of its unbeaten history and wish to expand into the ideals, and riches, of the East.
He was a studied man of his time and many manifestations of that era show that 'nationalist' pride infected much of the position of Germany as a force to be reckoned with.
The Great War is what caused Nazis to be born but there was proud blood and a feeling of losing the pole position for the future which ignited in fear and intolerance, things seen across the globe after 1918, and that pride was placed at Nietzsche's feet whether he would have wanted it or not.
Both World Wars started out from a Europe at war with itself and it spreading to its colonies and provoking instability elsewhere but a firm hand at its origins was Nietzsche (Among others).
I'd argue that it was the aftermath of the Great War that caused the Nazis, both from leaders like Woodrow Wilson (rot in hell you bastard) and the later full degeneracy of the Weimar Republic and them just using philosophers like Nietzsche as an excuse to sound more enlightened than they were.
I'd more argue a better representation of his philosophy with a bit of Machiavelli is Trump currently given how he is purging 'foreign mercenaries' within the government to replace with native leaders who have the will to lead by example.
You're not wrong with Trump's Machiavellian thrust on similar foundations ;)
I'm not hating on Nietzsche, just using the goto argument that most people associate with early Nazism. The Brits, French, Portuguese, Spanish and Dutch all had their own take on nationalism around the same time. Industrialisation changed the workforce and the US changed the governance of peoples (Not without its own problems either!).
There was a lot going down and some glib musings from a highly educated soul can have knock-on effects which may have been nothing more than observations and estimates based thereupon.
That said Nietzsche did represent intellectualism and the beginning of what is currently known as post-modernism. If it hadn't been him it would have been someone like him :)
Don't know who is downvoting this but time to get the flags of liberty up and flying over their Nietzsche loving heads!
We didn't rename Gamergate but it seems they have renamed the Nazis.
As someone who actually studied Nietzche, can we stop equating his work and philosophy to the Nazis.
That was caused by his bitch of a sister who misused and misrepresented his work because she WAS a Nazi. I remember when I studied Nietzche, I had a philosophy professor who would constantly say how much of a colossal bitch Nietzche's sister was lol.
I get that Nietzsche is the goto for the rise of the Nazis but it's not without warrant.
The influences of Kant and Schopenhauer on his philosophical thinking married with Goethe, Dostoevsky, Wagner and Zoroaster for his leisurely pursuits set against the fashionable French moralists all set the stage for a Germany proud of its unbeaten history and wish to expand into the ideals, and riches, of the East.
He was a studied man of his time and many manifestations of that era show that 'nationalist' pride infected much of the position of Germany as a force to be reckoned with.
The Great War is what caused Nazis to be born but there was proud blood and a feeling of losing the pole position for the future which ignited in fear and intolerance, things seen across the globe after 1918, and that pride was placed at Nietzsche's feet whether he would have wanted it or not.
Both World Wars started out from a Europe at war with itself and it spreading to its colonies and provoking instability elsewhere but a firm hand at its origins was Nietzsche (Among others).
I'd argue that it was the aftermath of the Great War that caused the Nazis, both from leaders like Woodrow Wilson (rot in hell you bastard) and the later full degeneracy of the Weimar Republic and them just using philosophers like Nietzsche as an excuse to sound more enlightened than they were.
I'd more argue a better representation of his philosophy with a bit of Machiavelli is Trump currently given how he is purging 'foreign mercenaries' within the government to replace with native leaders who have the will to lead by example.
You're not wrong with Trump's Machiavellian thrust on similar foundations ;)
I'm not hating on Nietzsche, just using the goto argument that most people associate with early Nazism. The Brits, French, Portuguese, Spanish and Dutch all had their own take on nationalism around the same time. Industrialisation changed the workforce and the US changed the governance of peoples (Not without its own problems either!).
There was a lot going down and some glib musings from a highly educated soul can have knock-on effects which may have been nothing more than observations and estimates based thereupon.
That said Nietzsche did represent intellectualism and the beginning of what is currently known as post-modernism. If it hadn't been him it would have been someone like him :)