yes Israel would treat them with preference because of their religion, but they need the citizenship papers in order to be a citizen. until then they are not citizens.
it's spelled out in black and white, I don't know how else I can Hammer this in.
You're arguing the letter of the law, while the rest are arguing the spirit. We see you as getting hung up on an irrelevant technicality when it's a barrier that doesn't fucking matter if you're Jewish. The letter of the law is you have to ask, but the spirit is that everyone who's Jewish is a citizen waiting to be recognized. We know this is true because they give the right of return to known pedophiles, anti-American spies, and worse.
Here's an analogy: it's like being the spoiled princess of a very wealthy man - she has no income or money in her name, but if all she has to do is ask her dad who'll give her anything, she's rich. Nobody would take you seriously when you're arguing she's not rich due to a technicality as she drives away in her hot pink BMW to go pick out her next set of $10,000 boots.
all right, then let's take a hypothetical person who converted to Judaism. this hypothetical person lives in the United States, was born in the United states, and has never left the United States. this hypothetical person has therefore never been to israel, and never applied for citizenship to Israel.
per their law, Israel would immediately extend this person citizenship should they apply, but they haven't. Does that automatically make this person a dual citizen in spirit, regardless of whether they like Israel or not?
I would argue either a pledge of allegiance or an application for citizenship would be necessary in order to have dual citizenship, in spirit or otherwise. There is such thing as an anti-zionist Jew.
Apply this back to the original post, the claim is that you can look it up on Wikipedia to find their dual citizenship, but it is not so obvious on Wikipedia itself as demonstrated by Zuckerberg's Wikipedia page. it's important to get proper sources when making such claims, which I'm sure exists given how often these kinds of posts are repeated.
If you can get citizenship on what is basically upon request, you have de facto dual citizenship, if not de jure.
yes Israel would treat them with preference because of their religion, but they need the citizenship papers in order to be a citizen. until then they are not citizens.
it's spelled out in black and white, I don't know how else I can Hammer this in.
You're arguing the letter of the law, while the rest are arguing the spirit. We see you as getting hung up on an irrelevant technicality when it's a barrier that doesn't fucking matter if you're Jewish. The letter of the law is you have to ask, but the spirit is that everyone who's Jewish is a citizen waiting to be recognized. We know this is true because they give the right of return to known pedophiles, anti-American spies, and worse.
Here's an analogy: it's like being the spoiled princess of a very wealthy man - she has no income or money in her name, but if all she has to do is ask her dad who'll give her anything, she's rich. Nobody would take you seriously when you're arguing she's not rich due to a technicality as she drives away in her hot pink BMW to go pick out her next set of $10,000 boots.
all right, then let's take a hypothetical person who converted to Judaism. this hypothetical person lives in the United States, was born in the United states, and has never left the United States. this hypothetical person has therefore never been to israel, and never applied for citizenship to Israel.
per their law, Israel would immediately extend this person citizenship should they apply, but they haven't. Does that automatically make this person a dual citizen in spirit, regardless of whether they like Israel or not?
I would argue either a pledge of allegiance or an application for citizenship would be necessary in order to have dual citizenship, in spirit or otherwise. There is such thing as an anti-zionist Jew.
Apply this back to the original post, the claim is that you can look it up on Wikipedia to find their dual citizenship, but it is not so obvious on Wikipedia itself as demonstrated by Zuckerberg's Wikipedia page. it's important to get proper sources when making such claims, which I'm sure exists given how often these kinds of posts are repeated.
I stopped right there. That's not how Judaism works.