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There's a bit of a difference between "this is the best ice cream in the world" and "this ice cream is as good as you can get." It's a phrase meaning something is very good and not necessarily that it's perfect, though I understand your confusion if you're not familiar with it.
The reason I used that phrase is because movies can never be exact copies of books. And, unfortunately, it's often the most literal adaptations that end up the worst movies. The new Dune is significantly better than the older ones and it isn't only because of the vast improvements in CGI. The internal monologues were almost as bad as the shield belts in the 80's Dune. And if you think the modern Baron Harkonnen is bad, do you even remember the one from the 80's? What a disaster.
I will concede that they probably could have kept the movie a bit closer to the books, but even then I'm not really upset with the the changes. Most of the Dune series is an unfilmable mess that reads more like a soap opera (it wasn't him, if was his clone! Or she was possessed by the ghost of the bad guy all along!) than as a follow up to one of the most clever and interesting sci fi books ever written. I actually hope they take it in a better direction.
Yes, there is. The first doesn't imply there is no room for improvement anymore. The latter does imply just that. Either way I never thought you implied Dunc is a perfect adaptation. Just that it is the most faithful adaptation of Dune so far which you definitely implied with that statement until you backtracked.
Dune 1984 explained mostly everything. Dunc explained absolutely nothing.
The shield effects were bad but they at least didn't pretend shields don't exist right after they've explained why melee combat and shields exist in Dune like Dunc did.
Yes, I do. And I prefer him. Do you know why? Because he's an actual character. In Dunc he isn't a character. In Dunc he can summed up with "Look at me I am bald, fat and float and I am evil because I speak in a low voice. Also I bathe in mud for some reason."
Baron Harkonnen is supposed to be eccentric, shrewd, evil and utterly degenerate. House Harkonnen is supposed to be shrewd, evil and dangerous. What does Dunc do? Make them bald and extremely pale. And show them to be utterly incompetent.
But you know who potrayed Baron Harkonnen perfectly? The mini series. Ian McNeice did an incredible job. Of course as it is a TV show they didn't really portray his sexual degeneracy. Dune 1984 managed to do that very well while avoiding to touch on his pedophilic 'desires'.
Frenchie wasted ungodly amounts of runtime on constantly repeating shots of the desert and dream sequences of Chani despite Chani not even really being in the movie. It is ridiculous how much story he could've crammed into Dunc and chose not to.
And don't get me started on the absolute pacing mess that is the second movie.
What the fuck are you talking about? Messiah and Children are still very similiar to Dune. Only with God Emperor does the series start to get weird. I'm starting to get the impression that you actually dislike the books.
You like Dunc. I think it's an insult to Dune and a shit movie on top of it. That's fine. I like Dune 1984. You think it's a horrible movie. That's also fine. Both are bad adaptations. Only one is a significantly worse adaptation than the other.