No need for specifics, more of a 30,000ft view sort of brainstorming thing. But it's been very apparent to me for a long time, that as much as the Right postures itself as the anti-feminist side, simping on the right is as out of control as it is on the left. It's basically feminism with a different package. Since 'men' on the Left are effeminate and vulnerable to consensus based emotional appeals, feminism is sold to them as "subjugate your interests to women or you have toxic masculinity". On the right though, with the trad nostalgia and whole rugged sacrificial self-aggrandizing "my hands look like this so hers can look like this" meme attitude, it's packaged as "subjugate your interests to a women or you're not man enough". Then you throw in how many on the right fall over themselves for literally any not-fat woman who opens her mouth to say anything not communist. And then you have the millions of older browbeaten "happy wife, happy life" types who just close their eyes and pretend women being harpies is something to chuckle at while paying her monthly credit card bill.

I see just as much feminism on the right as the left honestly, just from a different angle. For every "men are all rapists and should be jailed for existing" feminist on the left, there's a "no dude, so what if she had a train run on her in college. She's changed, you need to man up and marry her so you can have kids. If she divorces you it's because you didn't sacrifice enough for her. And so what if Anna Paulina Luna was a stripper. She she totally be on the vanguard of promoting conservative values. Look how hot she is" dude on the right.

I know the left is a totally lost cause. Leftism itself is the feminine side of politics. Consensus, harm avoidance, emotional appeals, dodging of accountability, sustaining by taking what others have made, etc. But the right postures itself as the masculine side, so you'd think it would at least be open to being restored to how men really were, and thought of and treated women, back in the days the right has all the nostalgia for. But so far, it seems anything but.

Are there any even theoretical things, movements, appeals, etc that could start shifting men on the right to stop being such simps and doormats for women?