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Sam Hyde on H1B (twitter.com)
posted 5 months ago by Ahaus667 5 months ago by Ahaus667 +101 / -3
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– yeldarb1983 4 points 5 months ago +5 / -1

fair enough. I don't really follow the guy.

I still think he makes the classic left-right mistake of saying it's a dichotomy of people or ideas (it's both), but he hit the nail on the head otherwise.

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– Gizortnik 10 points 5 months ago +10 / -0

He's actually hitting something much deeper, that's a discussion on the dissident right already. Ideology, particularly any ideology descended from and including liberalism, is fundamentally anti-human. He's making a mockery of first-principles argumentation from political rationalism, because humans aren't rational creatures, and politics can't be decided rationally. Thus, when trying to argue from first principles from any liberal mindset, you mistake the concept that people can be commodified into the ideology because you're in service to the liberal ideology and not the people themselves. Serving people's interests is an inherently inconsistent, subjective, and irrational way of dealing with the world, but ends up being the correct way if you want to actually help people.

Either ideology has to be sacrificed for people, or people have to be sacrificed for ideology. You can't actually have both.

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– yeldarb1983 5 points 5 months ago +5 / -0

I was more looking at it that ideology is molded by people and people are molded by ideology. symbiosis is probably the wrong word, but it's the best word I can think of (synergy maybe? no, that sounds worse...)

The analogy that's been running through my head is tea and coffee. In both cases, you steep water (the people) with ground plant material (ideology, values, culture, what have you). They're made the same way, but if you can't tell the difference, I'm not coming over to your house for dinner, lmao.

if you mix a small amount of one into the other, the whole isn't drastically changed, though there may be a subtle difference in flavor, color, aroma, etc, but the fundamental whole is maintained.

the more you add of one to the other, though, the more drastic the change becomes, until you're left with something unrecognizable as what you started with. if you continue pouring long enough, the original drink becomes unrecognizable to what it once was, diluted in what was added to it.

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– yeldarb1983 2 points 5 months ago +2 / -0

I should have added tea leaves are not tea, coffee beans are not coffee, and water is neither.

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