Both the guys who killed the healthcare CEO and Shinzo Abe have women creaming after them . (Shinzo Abe's killer also has a bunch of fangirls in Japan)
Next time some tradcon claims that guys should give up their hobby to appease a woman's standards, i would like to tell them that if guys all did what women wanted then all guys will become serial killers.
If everybody just did whatever made women moist, then we'd just end up like the blacks. An endless conga line of thugs, criminals, and apes that can only exist because someone else is actually out working and keeping things running somewhere. And eventually we'd run out of somebody else's money and running civilization.
Trad types are only marginally better than hedons because they are at least trying to keep society running, even if completely naive and often misguided about it.
The trick is not to do what women THINK makes them moist, it's to have control and an aura of dominance that women WANT you naturally.
It really is basic pack mentality of naturally wanting to mate with the stronger of the pack dressed up in with a 'I can fix him' decoration. Women see criminals as being more dominate because they're 'rebelling against the establishment' when if an average guy just wasn't passive and was assertive, 7-10 times they'll still give them their number.
I still advocate mgtow with modern women. One uncouth shit test, one abhorrent impulse to fall in with societal consensus, etc.