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You saw it, I saw it. Reality, summarized. (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by Deadlaw 1 year ago by Deadlaw +81 / -0
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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

True, but I see no reason why human IQ development can not be continuously grown. I agree that that level of anti-theism was not possible in the Bronze Age, but I see no reason low IQ is the kind of limiting factor that would make it impossible for a secular society to take responsiblity for itself.

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– Hellsbells00 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Atheism and anti-theism is not the other end of the bell curve. Low IQ people need religion imposed upon them for the fabric of society to remain stable. Most atheists are just lashing out in rejection of that and tend to become religious adherents of things that are less strictly theistic, but still religions - like the cults of communism or media's pop "science" (not to be confused with an actual understanding of the scientific method).

The other end of the bell curve is understanding and making peace with the existence of a higher power without the need for societal compulsion. Lashing out against the concept of God is not beneficial. Accepting God is beneficial even to people that can understand morality without God.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I'm sorry but I just don't agree with it. Low IQ people need structure not necessarily religion. Tradition, community, and family should be plenty for their needs.

Most atheists are just lashing out in rejection of that and tend to become religious adherents of things that are less strictly theistic,

I wouldn't say most, but there's clearly far too many that haven't undergone what we call "Deconversion". This is the process of actually taking the mantel of responsibility onto yourself. At that point, you just don't need God. It's an irrelevancy. You don't fight it at all. You don't need god for morality, tradition, community, beauty, or really anything.

An atheist who is raging or waring against God, is still a theist, because otherwise he's a madman tilting at windmills.

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– Hellsbells00 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

And I would say most, because the psychology of leftist dogma parallels religions. Their "trust the science" and their political ideologies all emulate religious fervor. They replace faith in god with faith in the state or some other false god.

The structure provided by religion is part of what societies need, but they also need the enforcement of religion. They need to believe in a power beyond what is human to keep them in line even when they aren't being watched - to make them believe that being good is GOOD, not just necessary.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I disagree again. I think it says something terrible of the moral framework of a theist to say that he is only good out of fear. What I respect about the Protestants is that they feel inspired to be good, not too afraid to be bad. The latter as a moral frame work inevitably creates a hyper-fragile moral system where the population will riot wildly out of control at the first sign of disharmony among the enforcement mechanisms.

Societies need enforcement mechanisms, but typically, every society's enforcement mechanism is typically women acting as social enforcers. You still don't need god to sit in the back of your head. The "little voice inside your head" telling you to do the right thing, or what would other people think about what you're doing, or what your mother would say, are all part of the development of a moral consciousness created by socialization, not by an in-built God created mechanism.

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