Tommy Robinson wants to bring more indians in to UK.
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But you can make this same argument for a lot of groups. Not along exactly the same lines, sure, but it's totally reasonable to say that, for example, a person that is born and raised in the US but ethnically Japanese, or Indian, or Afghanistan may not fit well into the nation of their ethnic ancestors... but it also doesn't stop me from noticing that they do have this part of their identity that is different from mine. It doesn't mean they have to be my enemy or my ally, but it is healthy and appropriate to acknowledge it, especially if I am explicitly considering how different identity groups interact and what their incentives might be.
I also reject the idea that "white" should contain "Jewish." "White" is loosely "European," or at the very least it is in most of the contexts in which you will see it on this board, something you should very well be aware of. As such, it would not contain a Middle Eastern group like the Jews. If you argue "actually, 'white' is X category for Y reasons and therefore I can fit Jews into it," sure maybe you can make a coherent category that does that, but you're still not addressing the actual point being made when most of the posters here use "white."
That depends. They may be ethnically American. American is both a Nation, by virtue of civic assimilation, but may also be (or becoming) an ethnos. If they are ethnically Japanese, they will have to join America civic-ly, and integrate into the US. Over a few generations, their decedents may become ethnically American.
I'm not saying White contains Jewish by definition. That's the point of European Jews. They are White Jews. There are also White Muslims. Judaism is a religion that contains multiple ethnic groups. Some Jews are European, but some are also Middle-Eastern and African. It's not that White is a full container for all Jews. It's that there are Jews that are White.
Unfortunately, many of the idiot users here are asserting a "White" that simply doesn't exist at all. A biologically homogenous European racial solidarity movement. There is no such thing as that. There is no racial solidarity between Albanians, Portuguese, Celts, Swiss, Boer, and Finns. The American definition of White is simply a container of "European", where as the British concept of "White" is basically just British, or Anglo-Saxon. What stupid people here like to do is desperately smash them all together where all "Europeanoids" are just culturally Saxon-Anglos that can only be saved by Socialism, if it just wasn't for those pesky jews.
My issue is that the Socialists here don't have points at all, and aren't engaging in an honest discussion about ethnicity in the first place when they aren't willing to accept distinctions between race, religion, ethnos, culture, and genetics. It's a completely upside-down idea that it starts with genetics, and then genetics informs race, and then race informs culture, religion, ethos, kin, clan, tribe, individual people, and nations equally, at the same time, to the same degree.
It is an intentional reduction of nuance to fit it into a historical dialectic. I can't accept the point, because the point is based on a false premise.
This argument is why I unironically prefer Aryan, it’s where we descended from and also doesn’t include yids.
That's stupid. The Aryans literally don't exist anymore. You are, at best, a partial descendent of an Aryan, but so are the Indians and Persians.
Persians KINDA, but it's super bred out, and jeets have next to no Aryan blood, sub 5% at best.
But it's still there, and you shouldn't be surprised to see those numbers among most Europeans, that's the point. You're not gonna find anyone even close to a full blooded Aryan because the entire ethnic group was bred out before writing existed in Europe. And certainly no one from Western Europe would be Aryan, because the Aryans originate in Eastern Europe, and migrated south-east.
If you're in Western Europe, you're probably more related to the Huns than the Aryans.