I'd honestly be content with helping any nation that would at least help us back.
Like that one African country* that sent some donkeys or something after Katrina, simply because it was the best they could do. I'd send them billions of dollars in aid every time over any single European country because not a single one of them cares about us beyond what they can parasite out.
There is no tribe between the US and Europe, whites or not. Its been over a century of dragging us into your wars, taking full advantage of all of our R&D to keep your own costs low, and then bitching at us about how much they hate us anyway.
*I can't find the name now because all the news sites are pumping out Helene and Katrina comparisons to clog the information.
Well I definitely appreciate where you're coming from. It's no secret that America's post WW2 foreign strategy has basically been to hobble its own manufacturing base in order to gain allies elsewhere (Japan, Germany, the UK, etc.). I also think Europeans have their own legitimate reasons to feel slighted by America's social influence around the world. American media exports over the last 70 years have had a corrosive effect wherever they have manifested (I recognise that there is a difference between what the American people want, and what the American government wants, for the record).
All that aside, we don't live in the same world we did 100 years ago. Europeans, as a people, are no longer ascendant. We are but one group in a world which has become much more globalised and multi-polar. We are besieged from all sides by outsiders who, frankly, don't care about the finer differences between an American white and a European white.
You can say that you don't recognise any tribe between the US and Europe, but I can guarantee your enemies will. I think we need to put historical gripes behind us and come to terms with the fact that that we, as a people, are vulnerable now.
America isn't sinless towards Europe, but I am very confident that if we were to completely split from one another, we'd manage after a nasty struggle and Europe would actually end up conquered or collapsed. Which means its not an "equal" relationship where the slights against European countries, such as them choosing to consume only our media instead of their own until it brainrots them, are just the cost of being the vassal of a larger nation.
None of this would matter really, if European nations at least tried to play their part, in terms of paying their fair share (remember the outrage when Trump asked that in NATO?) and not actively trying to undermine us by interfering in our politics constantly. But that seems to be impossible.
I think we need to put historical gripes behind us and come to terms with the fact that that we, as a people, are vulnerable now.
I'm armed, almost everyone around me is armed. I live in a place that is very hard to invade and feel pretty confident in a lot of my other fellow Americans are also in that same boat. And we are growing both our families and communities against those who would do us harm.
The call from Europe for "help" now on a racial basis really feels like "Help me Fellow Whites, we gave up our guns and invited the savages to live with us and its having consequences! Won't you come sacrifice your lives to save us again, your fellow whites?"
I'm not guaranteed in my safety by far, but most of Europe has shown themselves happy and willing to stab us in the back for their own benefit again and again, which makes allying with them just as likely to drag us down as it is to bolster us against those enemies. Double so because, as this topic is about, they won't even bother to send us any aid even in the peace times when its easy.
This isn't an attack on you, as I doubt any of my grievances you'd be a supporter of, but as a general statement against Europe.
Again, I will preface my response by agreeing that America as a nation has many reasons to be rightfully pissed off at Europe and the way Europe has behaved, especially internationally, since WW2. That being said, I believe that, much like with a case of domestic violence, the foul play usually cuts both ways.
In particular, America has been all too happy to nurture that soft helplessness in Europe, because it serves America's international policy to have a vast outpost of vassal states that will do its bidding. It's done the same thing in South East Asia for much the same reasons - intentionally hamper its own domestic industry to promote strategic partnerships abroad. Had NATO not existed, and Europe been forced to look out for its own interests following WW2, both parties would have been better off. The American empire has made a conscious decision to involve itself in others' affairs all over the world, despite being a country that could essentially be self-sufficient and isolationist.
Both of us probably agree that America and Europe desperately need to turn their attentions inwards to deal with the rot and strife which has built up. Neither should concern themselves much with international affairs until they have repaired their foundations.
I also don't think you should hold the average European accountable for the decisions of their elites. I certainly don't for the average American. Neither of us has much control over whether infinity Africans are dumped into our lands, because we were never consulted. The cry of 'Help me fellow whites' is a genuine one in 90% of my experiences, and it comes from people who think like you, are in a very similar position to you, and feel genuine kinship towards you, because at the end of the day we are very similar.
For what it's worth, I am personally planning on moving to the US in the not too distant future, partially for the very reasons you outlined. I still think it is the best place for a man to take a stand with other likeminded men. That being said, I'm not delusional about the prospects in America. Despite the guns and the governmental 'checks and balances', it is in a much worse place demographically, and that fact is only hidden by its size. Balkanisation seems basically inevitable at this point, but I'm taking the bet that if I am on the right side of the new borders, I'll have a better chance than I would in Europe.
That being said, I believe that, much like with a case of domestic violence, the foul play usually cuts both ways.
It does, I won't deny that we have done things to you guys. But like many cases of domestic violence, the "weaker" party initiates it through provocation and temptation that brings it up to the level of actual violence.
In this case, Europe has only itself to blame for being helpless and letting themselves become vassals. They started wars, got themselves killed in massive numbers, and had to beg the formerly Isolationist Nation of America to come bail them out. If they hadn't been weak in the first place, we'd never have took advantage of that weakness. And now they refuse to pay for their own defense, waste all their tax money on even more worthless things than we do, and import American media to brainwash themselves.
In gendered terms. You can never stop rapists from existing, so you better do everything possible to prevent yourself from being rapeable. Instead much of Europe seems to follow the Feminist method of being upset that you imply they could do anything to not allow themselves to be raped to begin with.
I also don't think you should hold the average European accountable for the decisions of their elites.
I don't, which is why I wanted to stress this was all in general terms. I am of the firm belief that the individual and the group should always be considered differently, as long as you don't make hypocritical exceptions.
I feel no ill will towards you, my guy. I only reject the notion that I should send aid to your nation whatsoever. At least, any aid that isn't an armed invasion to turn your nation into an actual colonized vassal.
and feel genuine kinship towards you, because at the end of the day we are very similar.
I'm from the South. My entire life has been my "fellow whites" telling me how worthless, retarded, and evil I was for being born in a place they don't like because of some vague history centuries ago they can barely explain. And those are my own countrymen.
I feel no kinship from my "fellow whites" in the slightest. Because when times were easy, they were lined up to throw stones. Now they are crying that we are brothers because times are hard? I'd personally rather die standing without them than debase myself by extending a hand to such an ungrateful and disrespectful bunch. Edgy, but my genuine feelings on the matter.
it is in a much worse place demographically, and that fact is only hidden by its size.
I think you'd be surprised at how much that size works to not hide the problem, but legitimately minimalize it. There are a large amount of areas, near entire states even, where if you turned off the TV and internet you'd see near zero of this nonsense ever. With the exception of taxes, it never reaches you and never effects you personally.
If I was willing to return to deep swamp hurricane country where I was born, I'd be able to live in actual ignorance of it all to barely any ill effect to my personal life. But hurricanes suck and I'd still see blacks when I craved fastfood, so instead I stay in a different rural nowhere.
I'd honestly be content with helping any nation that would at least help us back.
Like that one African country* that sent some donkeys or something after Katrina, simply because it was the best they could do. I'd send them billions of dollars in aid every time over any single European country because not a single one of them cares about us beyond what they can parasite out.
There is no tribe between the US and Europe, whites or not. Its been over a century of dragging us into your wars, taking full advantage of all of our R&D to keep your own costs low, and then bitching at us about how much they hate us anyway.
*I can't find the name now because all the news sites are pumping out Helene and Katrina comparisons to clog the information.
Well I definitely appreciate where you're coming from. It's no secret that America's post WW2 foreign strategy has basically been to hobble its own manufacturing base in order to gain allies elsewhere (Japan, Germany, the UK, etc.). I also think Europeans have their own legitimate reasons to feel slighted by America's social influence around the world. American media exports over the last 70 years have had a corrosive effect wherever they have manifested (I recognise that there is a difference between what the American people want, and what the American government wants, for the record).
All that aside, we don't live in the same world we did 100 years ago. Europeans, as a people, are no longer ascendant. We are but one group in a world which has become much more globalised and multi-polar. We are besieged from all sides by outsiders who, frankly, don't care about the finer differences between an American white and a European white.
You can say that you don't recognise any tribe between the US and Europe, but I can guarantee your enemies will. I think we need to put historical gripes behind us and come to terms with the fact that that we, as a people, are vulnerable now.
America isn't sinless towards Europe, but I am very confident that if we were to completely split from one another, we'd manage after a nasty struggle and Europe would actually end up conquered or collapsed. Which means its not an "equal" relationship where the slights against European countries, such as them choosing to consume only our media instead of their own until it brainrots them, are just the cost of being the vassal of a larger nation.
None of this would matter really, if European nations at least tried to play their part, in terms of paying their fair share (remember the outrage when Trump asked that in NATO?) and not actively trying to undermine us by interfering in our politics constantly. But that seems to be impossible.
I'm armed, almost everyone around me is armed. I live in a place that is very hard to invade and feel pretty confident in a lot of my other fellow Americans are also in that same boat. And we are growing both our families and communities against those who would do us harm.
The call from Europe for "help" now on a racial basis really feels like "Help me Fellow Whites, we gave up our guns and invited the savages to live with us and its having consequences! Won't you come sacrifice your lives to save us again, your fellow whites?"
I'm not guaranteed in my safety by far, but most of Europe has shown themselves happy and willing to stab us in the back for their own benefit again and again, which makes allying with them just as likely to drag us down as it is to bolster us against those enemies. Double so because, as this topic is about, they won't even bother to send us any aid even in the peace times when its easy.
This isn't an attack on you, as I doubt any of my grievances you'd be a supporter of, but as a general statement against Europe.
Again, I will preface my response by agreeing that America as a nation has many reasons to be rightfully pissed off at Europe and the way Europe has behaved, especially internationally, since WW2. That being said, I believe that, much like with a case of domestic violence, the foul play usually cuts both ways.
In particular, America has been all too happy to nurture that soft helplessness in Europe, because it serves America's international policy to have a vast outpost of vassal states that will do its bidding. It's done the same thing in South East Asia for much the same reasons - intentionally hamper its own domestic industry to promote strategic partnerships abroad. Had NATO not existed, and Europe been forced to look out for its own interests following WW2, both parties would have been better off. The American empire has made a conscious decision to involve itself in others' affairs all over the world, despite being a country that could essentially be self-sufficient and isolationist.
Both of us probably agree that America and Europe desperately need to turn their attentions inwards to deal with the rot and strife which has built up. Neither should concern themselves much with international affairs until they have repaired their foundations.
I also don't think you should hold the average European accountable for the decisions of their elites. I certainly don't for the average American. Neither of us has much control over whether infinity Africans are dumped into our lands, because we were never consulted. The cry of 'Help me fellow whites' is a genuine one in 90% of my experiences, and it comes from people who think like you, are in a very similar position to you, and feel genuine kinship towards you, because at the end of the day we are very similar.
For what it's worth, I am personally planning on moving to the US in the not too distant future, partially for the very reasons you outlined. I still think it is the best place for a man to take a stand with other likeminded men. That being said, I'm not delusional about the prospects in America. Despite the guns and the governmental 'checks and balances', it is in a much worse place demographically, and that fact is only hidden by its size. Balkanisation seems basically inevitable at this point, but I'm taking the bet that if I am on the right side of the new borders, I'll have a better chance than I would in Europe.
It does, I won't deny that we have done things to you guys. But like many cases of domestic violence, the "weaker" party initiates it through provocation and temptation that brings it up to the level of actual violence.
In this case, Europe has only itself to blame for being helpless and letting themselves become vassals. They started wars, got themselves killed in massive numbers, and had to beg the formerly Isolationist Nation of America to come bail them out. If they hadn't been weak in the first place, we'd never have took advantage of that weakness. And now they refuse to pay for their own defense, waste all their tax money on even more worthless things than we do, and import American media to brainwash themselves.
In gendered terms. You can never stop rapists from existing, so you better do everything possible to prevent yourself from being rapeable. Instead much of Europe seems to follow the Feminist method of being upset that you imply they could do anything to not allow themselves to be raped to begin with.
I don't, which is why I wanted to stress this was all in general terms. I am of the firm belief that the individual and the group should always be considered differently, as long as you don't make hypocritical exceptions.
I feel no ill will towards you, my guy. I only reject the notion that I should send aid to your nation whatsoever. At least, any aid that isn't an armed invasion to turn your nation into an actual colonized vassal.
I'm from the South. My entire life has been my "fellow whites" telling me how worthless, retarded, and evil I was for being born in a place they don't like because of some vague history centuries ago they can barely explain. And those are my own countrymen.
I feel no kinship from my "fellow whites" in the slightest. Because when times were easy, they were lined up to throw stones. Now they are crying that we are brothers because times are hard? I'd personally rather die standing without them than debase myself by extending a hand to such an ungrateful and disrespectful bunch. Edgy, but my genuine feelings on the matter.
I think you'd be surprised at how much that size works to not hide the problem, but legitimately minimalize it. There are a large amount of areas, near entire states even, where if you turned off the TV and internet you'd see near zero of this nonsense ever. With the exception of taxes, it never reaches you and never effects you personally.
If I was willing to return to deep swamp hurricane country where I was born, I'd be able to live in actual ignorance of it all to barely any ill effect to my personal life. But hurricanes suck and I'd still see blacks when I craved fastfood, so instead I stay in a different rural nowhere.