I’ve never seen a good argument for why people shouldn’t use the term “woke”. The one I see come up the most frequently is “People will call anything with a black/woman/gay in it woke”.
Yeah, that’s what happens you poison the well. That association came about from years worth of very deliberate actions by progressives. They are the ones who made women and blacks(as lead characters) into mascots for their retarded ideology that purposefully incites conflict everywhere they go, and then pretend to be shocked when people start practicing pattern recognition and start rejecting it.
MANY people are absolutely sick of the intersectional feminist commie “frame every fucking thing in the universe through oppressor/victim lens” narrative, and finger-wagging them for using a word isn’t going to make them magically shut up and accept it. Nor is playing a shell game with words going to serve as a reality hack to dodge criticism of this ideology that insists on inserting itself everywhere.
“Why don’t you say what your specific problem is without saying woke, it’s so overused it’s lost it’s meaning”
It has not lost it’s meaning, people moan about the term because they don’t want progressive ideas being criticized. It’s not even the term that’s the issue, they have no problem with “woke” when it’s associated with something they align with succeeding, like that crap ass Barbie movie.
Where is this concern for the sanctity of words when leftists are throwing around “racist”, “sexist”,”misogynist””fascist”,”reactionary”,”incel”, “bigot”,”white supremacist” like potpourri at a wedding? I notice this griping over words is very one-sided, it’s nearly always coming from a progressive, or some normie who doesn’t research anything and gets their talking points from progressives.
A term doesn’t have to have to encompass a thing with total accuracy to be a useful descriptor. No-one actually expects that of any term. Woke is a convenient euphemism for decisions made that 9/10 are based in either intersectional feminism, “white man bad” American racial grievance bullshit, or LGBTWTFBBQ. It’s not hard to define, they just refuse to accept the obvious and go off like a pre-recorded message about “MUH AFRICAN AMERICAN VERNACULAR ALERTNESS TO PREJUDICE”, as if anyone is persuaded by them acting like children, pretending not to understand that words can take on new meanings over time.
Progressives never argue in good faith, it doesn’t matter if you love 100 female-led movies and tv shows and never use the term “woke” once, as soon as you critique some pile of trash like the Acolyte, they’re going to start throwing out the -istaphobes to try and intimidate you into silence, because it’s what they always do. If normies are sick of hearing the term, well, I’m sick of the movement that the term refers to and want it to die already. Neither of us are getting what we want, too fucking bad.
TLDR, Keep using it, the people who bitch about it are either woke themselves, or so low-information/investment that there’s little reason to care about their opinion anyway.
"Woke" was term that originated from Social Justice Warriors, both of which emanated from those kinds of people as self-descriptors.
I personally don't use the term "woke" because it sounds childish, just as when the SJWs first used it back around the time of Gamergate. It was a low-IQ, smooth brain "I'm smart" word that progressives came up with to make themselves act as though they're superior, and to me, appropriating a word used by pseudo-intellectuals isn't smart.
It's far better to use proper political terms to describe their behavior. Yes, it might go over the sheep's heads or go ignored, but you have to get people to realize the history of these political movements and that this shit isn't new. It has a century-long history. If you want to destroy the progressives in totality, the sheep need to be shown where it originates from, not making it sound like this is a recent or new concept
The problem with this is that a lot of the woke aren’t motivated by consistent political beliefs.
Their rhetoric is clearly Marxist derived, but a lot of these people are not Communists or Marxist in any meaningful sense. The typical woke doesn’t give a shit about Marx, abolition of private property, seizing the means of production. They have no issues with billionaires or giant corporations, so long as they’re on their side.
Many of them are not revolutionaries in any way, they play defense for the government all the time (Democrats at least), and call people questioning things “threats to democracy”. From what I’ve seen, the only consistent through-line is hating straight white men, and blaming them for everything.
If the proper political term is “progressive”, I have to ask, how is this a meaningful distinction? Is “Woke” not just a pejorative term for Progressive, like Nazi for National Socialist?
I’ve never seen a good argument for why people shouldn’t use the term “woke”. The one I see come up the most frequently is “People will call anything with a black/woman/gay in it woke”.
Yeah, that’s what happens you poison the well. That association came about from years worth of very deliberate actions by progressives. They are the ones who made women and blacks(as lead characters) into mascots for their retarded ideology that purposefully incites conflict everywhere they go, and then pretend to be shocked when people start practicing pattern recognition and start rejecting it.
MANY people are absolutely sick of the intersectional feminist commie “frame every fucking thing in the universe through oppressor/victim lens” narrative, and finger-wagging them for using a word isn’t going to make them magically shut up and accept it. Nor is playing a shell game with words going to serve as a reality hack to dodge criticism of this ideology that insists on inserting itself everywhere.
“Why don’t you say what your specific problem is without saying woke, it’s so overused it’s lost it’s meaning”
It has not lost it’s meaning, people moan about the term because they don’t want progressive ideas being criticized. It’s not even the term that’s the issue, they have no problem with “woke” when it’s associated with something they align with succeeding, like that crap ass Barbie movie.
Where is this concern for the sanctity of words when leftists are throwing around “racist”, “sexist”,”misogynist””fascist”,”reactionary”,”incel”, “bigot”,”white supremacist” like potpourri at a wedding? I notice this griping over words is very one-sided, it’s nearly always coming from a progressive, or some normie who doesn’t research anything and gets their talking points from progressives.
A term doesn’t have to have to encompass a thing with total accuracy to be a useful descriptor. No-one actually expects that of any term. Woke is a convenient euphemism for decisions made that 9/10 are based in either intersectional feminism, “white man bad” American racial grievance bullshit, or LGBTWTFBBQ. It’s not hard to define, they just refuse to accept the obvious and go off like a pre-recorded message about “MUH AFRICAN AMERICAN VERNACULAR ALERTNESS TO PREJUDICE”, as if anyone is persuaded by them acting like children, pretending not to understand that words can take on new meanings over time.
Progressives never argue in good faith, it doesn’t matter if you love 100 female-led movies and tv shows and never use the term “woke” once, as soon as you critique some pile of trash like the Acolyte, they’re going to start throwing out the -istaphobes to try and intimidate you into silence, because it’s what they always do. If normies are sick of hearing the term, well, I’m sick of the movement that the term refers to and want it to die already. Neither of us are getting what we want, too fucking bad.
TLDR, Keep using it, the people who bitch about it are either woke themselves, or so low-information/investment that there’s little reason to care about their opinion anyway.
"Woke" was term that originated from Social Justice Warriors, both of which emanated from those kinds of people as self-descriptors.
I personally don't use the term "woke" because it sounds childish, just as when the SJWs first used it back around the time of Gamergate. It was a low-IQ, smooth brain "I'm smart" word that progressives came up with to make themselves act as though they're superior, and to me, appropriating a word used by pseudo-intellectuals isn't smart.
It's far better to use proper political terms to describe their behavior. Yes, it might go over the sheep's heads or go ignored, but you have to get people to realize the history of these political movements and that this shit isn't new. It has a century-long history. If you want to destroy the progressives in totality, the sheep need to be shown where it originates from, not making it sound like this is a recent or new concept
The problem with this is that a lot of the woke aren’t motivated by consistent political beliefs. Their rhetoric is clearly Marxist derived, but a lot of these people are not Communists or Marxist in any meaningful sense. The typical woke doesn’t give a shit about Marx, abolition of private property, seizing the means of production. They have no issues with billionaires or giant corporations, so long as they’re on their side.
Many of them are not revolutionaries in any way, they play defense for the government all the time (Democrats at least), and call people questioning things “threats to democracy”. From what I’ve seen, the only consistent through-line is hating straight white men, and blaming them for everything.
If the proper political term is “progressive”, I have to ask, how is this a meaningful distinction? Is “Woke” not just a pejorative term for Progressive, like Nazi for National Socialist?