I’ve never seen a good argument for why people shouldn’t use the term “woke”. The one I see come up the most frequently is “People will call anything with a black/woman/gay in it woke”.
Yeah, that’s what happens you poison the well. That association came about from years worth of very deliberate actions by progressives. They are the ones who made women and blacks(as lead characters) into mascots for their retarded ideology that purposefully incites conflict everywhere they go, and then pretend to be shocked when people start practicing pattern recognition and start rejecting it.
MANY people are absolutely sick of the intersectional feminist commie “frame every fucking thing in the universe through oppressor/victim lens” narrative, and finger-wagging them for using a word isn’t going to make them magically shut up and accept it. Nor is playing a shell game with words going to serve as a reality hack to dodge criticism of this ideology that insists on inserting itself everywhere.
“Why don’t you say what your specific problem is without saying woke, it’s so overused it’s lost it’s meaning”
It has not lost it’s meaning, people moan about the term because they don’t want progressive ideas being criticized. It’s not even the term that’s the issue, they have no problem with “woke” when it’s associated with something they align with succeeding, like that crap ass Barbie movie.
Where is this concern for the sanctity of words when leftists are throwing around “racist”, “sexist”,”misogynist””fascist”,”reactionary”,”incel”, “bigot”,”white supremacist” like potpourri at a wedding? I notice this griping over words is very one-sided, it’s nearly always coming from a progressive, or some normie who doesn’t research anything and gets their talking points from progressives.
A term doesn’t have to have to encompass a thing with total accuracy to be a useful descriptor. No-one actually expects that of any term. Woke is a convenient euphemism for decisions made that 9/10 are based in either intersectional feminism, “white man bad” American racial grievance bullshit, or LGBTWTFBBQ. It’s not hard to define, they just refuse to accept the obvious and go off like a pre-recorded message about “MUH AFRICAN AMERICAN VERNACULAR ALERTNESS TO PREJUDICE”, as if anyone is persuaded by them acting like children, pretending not to understand that words can take on new meanings over time.
Progressives never argue in good faith, it doesn’t matter if you love 100 female-led movies and tv shows and never use the term “woke” once, as soon as you critique some pile of trash like the Acolyte, they’re going to start throwing out the -istaphobes to try and intimidate you into silence, because it’s what they always do. If normies are sick of hearing the term, well, I’m sick of the movement that the term refers to and want it to die already. Neither of us are getting what we want, too fucking bad.
TLDR, Keep using it, the people who bitch about it are either woke themselves, or so low-information/investment that there’s little reason to care about their opinion anyway.
The backlash against the word “woke” is because it’s so unbelievably effective against them now that their side is culturally up against the ropes for once.
The thing is, it's not that the "Anti-woke" is scoring victories against them - they are falling flat on their ass constantly despite having all the advantages in their court. They’re up against the ropes because everyone else is getting sick of their bullshit.
The term has gained the power it does because of their own actions (namely being insufferable tyrannical cunts), their own projects backed by mega-corporations and million-dollar budgets bombing every other month. They seem to think that just dodging or discrediting the “woke” label will save them, but it’s not going to change anything. People don’t want Dustborn, or Concord, or the Acolyte, or whatever other shitfest comes next, and you can only do the “Popular IP Skinsuit” trick so many times before you piss off too much of that that built-in audience and they stop coming.
They’re freaking out because they’ve finally hit a barrier that they can’t get around with globalist money injections, or calling it racist.
Actually, there's a better term than "Woke," which made them shriek way louder back when they had far less contested power.
Cultural Marxist. Time to dust off that old term, it's way more self-explanatory because everyone sees this ostensibly paradoxical situation of capitalist institutions engaged in something that's "Marxist" in every way but economic.
You don't even need to know the background with the Frankfurt School and such. It's a good enough term when taken at face-value, as it distances you from the vibes of boomers who've never left the Cold War, while at the same time highlighting that there's something extreme and sinister about these people.
I’ve never seen a good argument for why people shouldn’t use the term “woke”. The one I see come up the most frequently is “People will call anything with a black/woman/gay in it woke”.
Yeah, that’s what happens you poison the well. That association came about from years worth of very deliberate actions by progressives. They are the ones who made women and blacks(as lead characters) into mascots for their retarded ideology that purposefully incites conflict everywhere they go, and then pretend to be shocked when people start practicing pattern recognition and start rejecting it.
MANY people are absolutely sick of the intersectional feminist commie “frame every fucking thing in the universe through oppressor/victim lens” narrative, and finger-wagging them for using a word isn’t going to make them magically shut up and accept it. Nor is playing a shell game with words going to serve as a reality hack to dodge criticism of this ideology that insists on inserting itself everywhere.
“Why don’t you say what your specific problem is without saying woke, it’s so overused it’s lost it’s meaning”
It has not lost it’s meaning, people moan about the term because they don’t want progressive ideas being criticized. It’s not even the term that’s the issue, they have no problem with “woke” when it’s associated with something they align with succeeding, like that crap ass Barbie movie.
Where is this concern for the sanctity of words when leftists are throwing around “racist”, “sexist”,”misogynist””fascist”,”reactionary”,”incel”, “bigot”,”white supremacist” like potpourri at a wedding? I notice this griping over words is very one-sided, it’s nearly always coming from a progressive, or some normie who doesn’t research anything and gets their talking points from progressives.
A term doesn’t have to have to encompass a thing with total accuracy to be a useful descriptor. No-one actually expects that of any term. Woke is a convenient euphemism for decisions made that 9/10 are based in either intersectional feminism, “white man bad” American racial grievance bullshit, or LGBTWTFBBQ. It’s not hard to define, they just refuse to accept the obvious and go off like a pre-recorded message about “MUH AFRICAN AMERICAN VERNACULAR ALERTNESS TO PREJUDICE”, as if anyone is persuaded by them acting like children, pretending not to understand that words can take on new meanings over time.
Progressives never argue in good faith, it doesn’t matter if you love 100 female-led movies and tv shows and never use the term “woke” once, as soon as you critique some pile of trash like the Acolyte, they’re going to start throwing out the -istaphobes to try and intimidate you into silence, because it’s what they always do. If normies are sick of hearing the term, well, I’m sick of the movement that the term refers to and want it to die already. Neither of us are getting what we want, too fucking bad.
TLDR, Keep using it, the people who bitch about it are either woke themselves, or so low-information/investment that there’s little reason to care about their opinion anyway.
Couldn’t agree more on ALL points.
The backlash against the word “woke” is because it’s so unbelievably effective against them now that their side is culturally up against the ropes for once.
Fuck them. Keep saying it
The thing is, it's not that the "Anti-woke" is scoring victories against them - they are falling flat on their ass constantly despite having all the advantages in their court. They’re up against the ropes because everyone else is getting sick of their bullshit.
The term has gained the power it does because of their own actions (namely being insufferable tyrannical cunts), their own projects backed by mega-corporations and million-dollar budgets bombing every other month. They seem to think that just dodging or discrediting the “woke” label will save them, but it’s not going to change anything. People don’t want Dustborn, or Concord, or the Acolyte, or whatever other shitfest comes next, and you can only do the “Popular IP Skinsuit” trick so many times before you piss off too much of that that built-in audience and they stop coming.
They’re freaking out because they’ve finally hit a barrier that they can’t get around with globalist money injections, or calling it racist.
Actually, there's a better term than "Woke," which made them shriek way louder back when they had far less contested power.
Cultural Marxist. Time to dust off that old term, it's way more self-explanatory because everyone sees this ostensibly paradoxical situation of capitalist institutions engaged in something that's "Marxist" in every way but economic.
You don't even need to know the background with the Frankfurt School and such. It's a good enough term when taken at face-value, as it distances you from the vibes of boomers who've never left the Cold War, while at the same time highlighting that there's something extreme and sinister about these people.
Disagree.