I posted a comment about this, but I think it's worthy of a post. I will summarize very briefly.
In 1973, David Rosenhan, a psychologist, published a study of mental institutions that basically went viral. In "On Being Sane in Insane Places" Rosenhan claimed to have sent 12 average people to voluntarily be assessed by different mental institutions. He catalogued the diagnoses they received and how long they spent institutionalized. This study was shocking in purporting to show how poorly diagnoses work and in exposing flaws in treatment. His claims, followed in 1975 by the famous movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest essentially killed off institutionalization in the United States and around the world. Those who supported chemically treatments, as opposed to psychotherapy and hospitalization, won a resounding victory, and that's the world we live in today.
The only problem is, Rosenhan's paper was a complete work of fiction, and he lied repeatedly about the experiment, about the results of the experiment, even about the people in the experiment. Rosenhan, himself was one of the participants, and the alleged experimental protocols that participants were supposed to follow simply did not exist. When experiences didn't match what he was looking for, he simply dismissed and ignored them, and made up 'alternative facts' instead.
Investigative reporter Susannah Calahan and history of psychiatry professor Andrew Scull have thoroughly destroyed Rosenhan's paper and results, and yet it is still the most formative and influential piece of work in the field in at least the last 75 years.
Andrew Scull's lengthy article. I highly recommend reading it all:
https://gwern.net/doc/psychiatry/schizophrenia/rosenhan/2023-scull.pdf
Archive: https://archive.is/fqt8z
This needs to be more widely known. Along with the perverted Kinsey (enough said) and the fraudster Ancel Keys, of the Minnesota Starvation Experiment, whose work lead directly to the false belief that "all fat is bad" and who is personally responsible for the high-carb low-fat diet trends of the 1960s on that have killed hundreds of millions, it shows the power that corrupt, fraudulent, and narrative-driven activist scientists can have on reshaping society around us.
No, we should NOT "trust the science," and to say otherwise is distinctly anti-scientific.
Karen Horney was a direct student of Freud, and in a complete fit of womanly tantrum decided to just flip the switch on everything he said and founded her own school about "womb envy" and "men with mommy issues are what's wrong with society" just to stick it to him. Including forcing a very abusive and creepy "you must attend all sessions for a year no matter what" contract to properly brainwash them into agreeing with her.
And now a century later Freud is considered an iffy if groundbreaking source, though a lot of his findings are coming back around, while Horney is literal Feminist fundamentalism and still taught to this day. To the point where many of her "beliefs" are basic and accepted in regular society, and you can trace direct lines to her from many of the cultural movements of the second half of the 1900s.
Before all the gay and gender shit in Psychology, it was being strangled in the womb by Feminism and women. It never had a chance to be a "science" and all good it manages is in spite of what women did to it.
Also the only "science" in Psychology you could ever trust is I/O Psych. Because that one is in direct benefit to the Elites and Rich, so its as pure as can be because they don't expect anyone to ever read it but them to see how abusive and evil it is. But it did prove over and over that yes pizza parties do stop unions and quitting.
FYI feminism in 2024 is the patriarchy because it's overtaken by Pickmeshas giving hail to the Almighty transgender ideology. Aka men deciding they women telling women they don't matter. This was planned in the Gay Manefeato published in 1970. That was an unfortunate example for you to use, because even if philosophically I could track your line of thought with, " womb envy". Have you seen the crazy shit the TIM's are posting?!
Feminism has so many waves it's been mocked for being degree worthy. With that in mind, I'll simply tell you there was a wave of feminism that believed if you weren't lesbian, you weren't a feminist. Good thing it moved on. We would not be here disagreeing. The gay manifesto planned exactly what you see today. While you should read it, I will warn you it's gross.
Feminism when I was growing up was, I'm not helpless. Perhaps focusing on Women's Suffrage would be more conducive for discussion?
No, pizza parties aren't what's stopping unions. It's companies gaming the system. By law you have to discuss unionization before, after work, or when all parties are off. Did you think HR was being kind paying for those dumb ass parties? Then HR tells you you're, " not a team player" if you skip them. Because they want eyes on you.
Why do you think 12 hr shifts require 15 min before schedule clock ins? Because then by law someone will always be clocked in.
Its not my line of thought. Its hers. Because men "cannot create" due to their lack of womb, they react "violently and destructively" and do all the negative things men do. These are things she was pushing hard into American culture in the early 1900s, well before any of the subversives of the 70s were born. And it had much of the same Jewish Elite backing as people like Kinsey and Money did when they started their nonsense.
Congrats, you didn't know a thing about the movement you were parroting. That's more indicative of how ignorant you were rather than some redemption for feminism. That's how Feminism was able to convince women to leave the comfort of their homes and children and become soulless wagies like the rest of us, while their kids get raised by someone else. Giving them cool phrases like "I'm not helpless!" to make them not notice the consequences of the changes they were pushing for.
They absolutely are. That's why its such a common thing across so many industries. It plays off basic emotional manipulation and social pressures to control workers. Those little retarded gifts work on the vast majority of people to keep them just on the side of the line before they finally snap and make big decisions.
Its the cheapest option they can get away with to continue exploiting people the way they continue to. And they have paid millions to get data showing it.
It's the AGP TIM's that want to be called, " penis wielders" while calling women womb holders. Yes, I'm a TERF. No, I don't fuck with the fake shit. I was raised by a single man. I raised two sons. If it's not equal it's wrong. Fighting for equality was remarkable at the time of the women's suffrage movement. There are places in the world woman are still treated like less than. Your comments that could be straight from the mouth of an Islamic State rapist isn't doing you justice.
Congratulations, you ignored the Spice Girls generation girl power after my generation. Clearly your preconceived notions are clouding your ability to even attempt to learn another perspective.
Stop regurgitating Islamic State talking points about women. Now, if you'd like to discuss the probability of the feminism movement being co-opted... Most are. But, THE GAY MANIFESTO SPELLED IT OUT. Read it.
https://www.history.com/news/7-things-you-might-not-know-about-the-womens-suffrage-movement
https://kids.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/womens-suffrage-movement#:~:text=They%20wanted%20to%20be%20treated,front%20of%20Congress%2C%20and%20vote.
Paid millions... You mean textbooks with bullshit? Or you mean HR certifications that are political? Have you seen what's going on in HR these days?
https://pages.technologyadvice.com/best-human-resources-2024-B-lp?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=hr%20software%20programs&utm_campaign=20943380631&utm_device=m&cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=20943380631&cq_net=g&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw0aS3BhA3EiwAKaD2Zf-4OMz04ch5pxhA2WOxsjybpLO-EdjzZ2O5fVinVQQFfUWFOun8txoCcMAQAvD_BwE
Pay attention to, " engagement" which is PC speak for that person isn't going along with the bullshit, and apps for employees. Apps for employees is the company data mining your personal device. They even do company payday loans making company slaves that can't quit.
When you're done showing you have nothing but politics behind your stupid comments. I click links. I don't sleep well. I get easily distracted. This HR shit had my attention years ago because even Lexus Nexus got in on the game. Don't EVER work for a company that's self insured. You don't want HR in your medical business.
Yes that's 2024. We are talking about the early 1900s and the history behind a critical political person whose work would set the foundation for must of what is being pushed now.
Since you can't comprehend that basic fact so that you can talk about "me me and my beliefs!" like a retarded woman, nothing further will come of this conversation.