I grew up in farm country, and it was an open secret that all of the so-called "conservative" farmers hired tons of illegals to work their farms. In middle school I got in an argument about it with a friend whose dad was a farmer. "Respect the law!" he said. "But don't you hire a bunch of illegal labor?" I replied. "Yeah but we need that otherwise we'd go out of business."
For many years the left and right played a variant of "good cop/bad cop" on the matter where the right would bring them in to work, the "populist" left would pretend to object, and then the leftist judges would make sure you couldn't deport them or deny them benefits.
As an aside, people have been talking about "10 million illegal aliens in this country" as long as I've been alive. If it was 10x that it wouldn't surprise me.
To some extent, hiring illegals is a zero sum game. For menial tasks either you play by the rules that American jobs have been taken over by sub-minimum wage zombies, or else you get completely priced out and "buy american" neocons give you lipservice while supporting alien-propped up business practices. If every western company agreed to play by the rules established by westerners, the world would be much better. But if upholding values was easy it wouldn't be a White trait.
I agree that to some extent you have to play the game as the rules are instead of the way you wish they were. However these people weren't just neutral bystanders: very often they also pushed for things to be the way they are today, because they were addicted to that cheap labor.
5 million a year since 1992 would be 170 million. If instead, you assume a linear increase over the same duration it would be half that, which gives an estimate of 85 million illegals. That agrees with the fact that entire towns in the southeast have been replaced with latinos. All it takes is one Swanson's or Tyson's coming in.
I grew up in farm country, and it was an open secret that all of the so-called "conservative" farmers hired tons of illegals to work their farms. In middle school I got in an argument about it with a friend whose dad was a farmer. "Respect the law!" he said. "But don't you hire a bunch of illegal labor?" I replied. "Yeah but we need that otherwise we'd go out of business."
For many years the left and right played a variant of "good cop/bad cop" on the matter where the right would bring them in to work, the "populist" left would pretend to object, and then the leftist judges would make sure you couldn't deport them or deny them benefits.
As an aside, people have been talking about "10 million illegal aliens in this country" as long as I've been alive. If it was 10x that it wouldn't surprise me.
To some extent, hiring illegals is a zero sum game. For menial tasks either you play by the rules that American jobs have been taken over by sub-minimum wage zombies, or else you get completely priced out and "buy american" neocons give you lipservice while supporting alien-propped up business practices. If every western company agreed to play by the rules established by westerners, the world would be much better. But if upholding values was easy it wouldn't be a White trait.
I agree that to some extent you have to play the game as the rules are instead of the way you wish they were. However these people weren't just neutral bystanders: very often they also pushed for things to be the way they are today, because they were addicted to that cheap labor.
5 million a year since 1992 would be 170 million. If instead, you assume a linear increase over the same duration it would be half that, which gives an estimate of 85 million illegals. That agrees with the fact that entire towns in the southeast have been replaced with latinos. All it takes is one Swanson's or Tyson's coming in.